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Tuicemen:
I believe their is a site that breaks down a normal car batteries cranking amps into AH But for the price difference A deep cycle battery is the best .
I found this clip from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun
Starting, Marine, and Deep-Cycle Batteries
* Starting (sometimes called SLI, for starting, lighting, ignition) batteries are commonly used to start and run engines. Engine starters need a very large starting current for a very short time. Starting batteries have a large number of thin plates for maximum surface area. The plates are composed of a Lead "sponge", similar in appearance to a very fine foam sponge. This gives a very large surface area, but if deep cycled, this sponge will quickly be consumed and fall to the bottom of the cells. Automotive batteries will generally fail after 30-150 deep cycles if deep cycled, while they may last for thousands of cycles in normal starting use (2-5% discharge).


* Deep cycle batteries are designed to be discharged down as much as 80% time after time, and have much thicker plates. The major difference between a true deep cycle battery and others is that the plates are SOLID Lead plates - not sponge. Unfortunately, it is often impossible to tell what you are really buying in some of the discount stores or places that specialize in automotive batteries. The popular golf cart battery is generally a "semi" deep cycle - better than any starting battery, better than most marine, but not as good as a true deep cycle solid Lead plate, such the L-16 or industrial type. However, because the golf cart (T-105, US-2200, GC-4 etc) batteries are so common, they are usually quite economical for small to medium systems.


* Many (most?) Marine batteries are usually actually a "hybrid", and fall between the starting and deep-cycle batteries, while a few (Rolls-Surrette and Concorde, for example) are true deep cycle. In the hybrid, the plates may be composed of Lead sponge, but it is coarser and heavier than that used in starting batteries. It is often hard to tell what you are getting in a "marine" battery, but most are a hybrid. "Hybrid" types should not be discharged more than 50%. Starting batteries are usually rated at "CCA", or cold cranking amps, or "MCA", Marine cranking amps - the same as "CA". Any battery with the capacity shown in CA or MCA may not be a true deep-cycle battery. It is sometimes hard to tell, as the terms marine and deep cycle are sometimes overused. CA and MCA ratings are at 32 degrees F, while CCA is at zero degree F. Unfortunately, the only positive way to tell with some batteries is to buy one and cut it open - not much of an option.
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each size has a different rating it will be stated as cranking amps for a starting battery and Amp Hours on a deep cycle.
There are limitations to running the DS700 on 9 volts (you can't activate lights and no extra siren)
Although SmartHome does sell an extra weather resistant wired siren for their (Smarthome SecureLinc II Wireless Security) System I'm not sure if it will work with the PowerHouse PS561 ( that may be my next mod) ;) :D ;D

Tuicemen:
Update:
I had my sisters and their families up for a few days!
I have the system set to chime when a door /window is opened and that didn't seem to catch anyones attention.
latter that night while sitting around the fire place(was raining outside) the unit chimed!
 Almost every one asked "What is that?"
 I responded with "The security system is telling me someone left the door open!", as I got up and closed the sliding door.
Everyone was amazed,  I told them it would even phone me in the event of a break-in and allow me to listen in ,their eyes widened even more!
When I told them there was no monthly charge for that they were more amazed!
"Wow High tech features in a log home miles from nowhere" was one comment. ;D :D
This unit continues to bring a smile to my face as well as peace of mind! ;)

tinnman357:
Very cool Tuicemen,
           This is kinda off topic. You had noted earlier that you use wind as well. My question is how much of your place does the solar run? And if you don't mind me asking. Your square footage? I live in Florida and have been thinking getting into solar. But so far Ive been hearing prices of 30 to 40 (to get off grid). I think 12 would be well worth it. The generator (whole house) Ive been looking at is around 9. But then you have to have a propane tank and then insurance goes up bla..bla..bla. Anyway any info you care to pass along on this issue would be appreciated. thanks

HA Dave:

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.........have been thinking getting into solar. But so far Ive been hearing prices of 30 to 40 (to get off grid).


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Sorry tinnman.... I know your question is to Tuicemen. Your post just caught my attention.

I lost power to my home 5 times the 1st summer we moved in, so I bought a back-up generator. That was nearly 6 years ago, and I haven't lost power since I got it. Now I see where Sam's Club (on-line) has a "back-up" solar system, I could use to replace the generator. Of course, the "back-up" solar system wouldn't replace the grid...... but it could shave down the electric useage.... as well as be there in an emergency.

tinnman357:
No problem Dave,
              Thanks for the tip on the solar b/u from Sam's. I will have to look into that.

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