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spankyboy10

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Guys,

Is it possible to use Extended Codes and or direct addressing with AHP to enable a button push on the SH624 console. This would arm the DX7000 via a macro.

Ultimately I want to create a macro that does a Arm Home each night when we go to bed each night automatically.  I found some articles which describes some codes but not sure how definitive it is.  I know the SH624 console has arm away and arm home on the panel which need to be addressed and triggered as if someone pressed it. Some RF command hopefully a code command(op code) and data. The syntax for extended codes seems to be two hex values for opcode cmd and data, but don't have a list of these fields anywhere. Does the CM15A use a microcontroller or PLC? In my system address A15 is my SH624...I know that much.... Anyway, I tried some simple macros provided with the Myhouse and OnAlert plug ins but something is mission. I also have read postings on the subject, but did not see a solution to date unless I missed it. I posted a simple macro that might to the trick if the codes are known and allowable for this kind of task.  Any ideas or comments.....

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Dale
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 05:46:15 PM »

Is it possible to use Extended Codes and or direct addressing with AHP to enable a button push on the SH624 console. This would arm the DX7000 via a macro.

You can do it, but not that way. You have to register a remote in OnAlert then you can use it in a macro to send an Arm signal to the DS7000.

Note: When I did this, I had to register the software remote into the DS7000 even though the original remote was already registered. So if your macro does not work, this could be why.
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 08:52:54 PM »

Is it possible to use Extended Codes and or direct addressing with AHP to enable a button push on the SH624 console. This would arm the DX7000 via a macro.

The required signals for arming and disarming are X10 RF Security Codes.  The Extended Codes are powerline signals, not RF.
The X10 Extended Code format is described in http://software.x10.com/pub/manuals/xtdcode.pdf  There are commands listed for "security modules" but those are apparently different beasts.

As Puck suggests, with the OnAlert plugin you can arm your DS7000 with a macro.  Unfortunately however, X-10 has not provided a feature to disarm it with a macro.

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 09:27:21 PM »

I can't help you with the alarm activation but I would like to point out that for any given day, it will alway be true that the time is after 12:00 am.
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 11:01:12 PM »

I can't help you with the alarm activation but I would like to point out that for any given day, it will alway be true that the time is after 12:00 am.

Not always.  The time could be exactly 12:00 AM.   :D

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 11:31:29 PM »

Not always.  The time could be exactly 12:00 AM  :D
Ok virtually all the time or more exactly 1 second out of every 86,400. i.e. .0012% of the time.
That is of course if AHP checks down the second level. If it only checks to the minute level the odds would improve to 1 in 1440 or about .0694% of the time.

Of course if you toss all that into a ship with an infinite probability drive....  ;)
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2008, 03:53:36 PM »

Puck,

I gather when you mean register the macro and CM15A with DS7000, you mean run the install switch with another empty slot(if available) in the DS7000. Could I just trip the sensor to register in install mode or do I have to press the test button again from the door switch. I'm afraid of it sending out another code making a ambiguity of 2 codes for the same sensor. Ie. one for the CM15A and another for the DS7000 which already has one for that switch as well. Very confusing how this might work. However, I do appreciate your educated response. Your experience on this system has a great deal of depth. Can you tell me who at X10, I might be asking these questions?

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2008, 08:38:37 PM »

Puck,

I gather when you mean register the macro and CM15A with DS7000, you mean run the install switch with another empty slot(if available) in the DS7000. Could I just trip the sensor to register in install mode or do I have to press the test button again from the door switch. I'm afraid of it sending out another code making a ambiguity of 2 codes for the same sensor. Ie. one for the CM15A and another for the DS7000 which already has one for that switch as well. Very confusing how this might work. However, I do appreciate your educated response. Your experience on this system has a great deal of depth. Can you tell me who at X10, I might be asking these questions?

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Dale

Just to clarify, this only applies to AHP with the OnAlert plug-in:

You would register a security remote with AHP / OnAlert (not a door/window sensor), then create a macro that uses this remote to send an Arm signal. Then you set the DS7000 to install mode and run the macro to install it's remote into the DS7000. Since it is a remote, it does not use up a zone (LED).
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 09:52:59 AM »

Thanks Puck....

I will give it a shot.... I did all of this before with the exception of putting the DS7000 in install mode and executing macro... I'm excited to try this....

Thanks Again...

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 03:45:33 PM »

Puck,

This worked great.. I think I understand how this works now with your help. The CM15A and AHP with OnAlert is like having a virtual SH624 to register to the DS7000. I can register as many RF keychains and RF Consoles as I want without taking up a slot on the DS7000. Hundreds on special case arming macro's. I wonder why you can't dissarm even though I won't see the need? Anyway, thank you for this info....When do you recommend me to remove this link to free up some topic space?

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 04:27:01 PM »

Puck,

With Myhouse is in remote mode with exclusive use turned on, is there any way to turn on these macros or arm the house remotely... From what I see on the interface, it looks like a one way connection monitoring only without the ability to control AHP from the mother station.

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 05:29:08 PM »

When do you recommend me to remove this link to free up some topic space?

NEVER!!!!

I think you solved the mystery of the disappearance of another topic you started.  ;)

There is no need to free up topic space; plus one person's problem and solution will always be there for others (even non-members) to read and learn from.
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 05:53:07 PM »

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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 07:03:53 PM »

With Myhouse is in remote mode with exclusive use turned on, is there any way to turn on these macros or arm the house remotely... From what I see on the interface, it looks like a one way connection monitoring only without the ability to control AHP from the mother station.

You should be able to run the macros from anywhere with MyHouse (you should have full control of all your modules too). Only problem is that you don't know for certain if the DS7000 armed or not.
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Re: Using Extended Codes and Addressing Transmit Commands With CM15A
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2008, 11:22:20 AM »

Ok....Thanks Guys... Will do....

I have a macro to arm my system at night automatically but does not trigger. Can you guys give me a suggestions. Since, the CM15A receives signals from the registered sensors roughly every 45 minutes, I use this as my main trigger. If the back door is closed is reported, I want the macro to run every time this happens. I hope this is how the system works? In any case, once the macro executes the next condition looks for the time and whether or not the system has been previously armed. If true, execute the arming instructions which have been proven to work on another test macro.

Macro Details...

Macro Name: Arm Home At Night
Trigger:  BackDoor FL Rm - Sensor Closed .....This trigger should happen every 45 mins at least as reported by the monitor program.
Other Conditions:      Time between 12:00 am and 6:00 am and System is Not Armed
             Home Address Command - A10 .......This is my SH624 arming console which has been virutally registered with the DS7000
             MasterBed Console Arm Security System - Home Instant ........This has been tested by using a manual trigger switch in another macro which has worked.

What I'd rather have is the macro be executed only between those hours at night until its armed once, but can't get past the first trigger which only gives you a choice of a switch or security module status. Any suggestions.

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