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[captain.kawasaki]

I sold my wife a 'security system' as an excuse to start automating my home and I'll tell you--it is a BLAST.  My inner nerd and I haven't had this much fun since my last video game purchase!  I muddled through getting my WS467's and 4777's working by using an 'all lights' for each room before finding this forum and reading about the 'send ON instead of bright' preference. 
Down to brass tacks--it seems as though these wall switches do not send any powerline codes when activated locally, so my auto-shutdown macros just sit there looking dumb.  Any way to see that a WS467 was activated manually and shut it off after xx minutes?  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks in advance--captain.kawasaki

[HA Dave]

I sold my wife a 'security system' as an excuse to start automating my home and I'll tell you--it is a BLAST.  My inner nerd and I haven't had this much fun since my last video game purchase! 

it seems as though these wall switches do not send any powerline codes when activated locally, so my auto-shutdown macros just sit there looking dumb. 

Your right local control sends no signals on the powerlines... so the CM15A (and macros) are blind to the lights being on.

If your conditions are right for it... you might be able to use an "eye motion sensor". Not to sense motion.... but for its dusk/dawn light sensor. If the room would normally be dark (dusk). Then when the lights are ON.. the "eye" sensor would report dawn... which would really be reporting "lights ON".

Another... work-around.. would be a timer off. I know some users here have a all off based on timers. So on school/work days.. as an example.. all lights in the home would be turn off at 8AM.

[dave w]

you might be able to use an "eye motion sensor". Not to sense motion.... but for its dusk/dawn light sensor. If the room would normally be dark (dusk). Then when the lights are ON.. the "eye" sensor would report dawn... which would really be reporting "lights ON".

DAVE! Great idea!!

[HA Dave]

DAVE! Great idea!!

Sorry... didn't mean to give the impression that it was my idea. I think I read about it a few years ago... posted by TTA (Take The Active). I did a search... but wasn't able to dig up a link.

[captain.kawasaki]

Thanks for the input!
Maybe a 'shut off the lights every 30 minutes' type macro or something.......or maybe I'll kick off a macro whenever I detect motion (there's an MS10a in the room) that turns off the foyer light 10 minutes after someone walks through....I'll have to play around and see what works best.
My wife stays home during the day so the lights are often left on for long periods of time.  Are there any wall switches that do send x10 codes when activated locally?  I googled it up but didn't find much info one way or the other.
On another note, have you guys seen http://www.thex10shop.com?  This guy is selling the stuff for cheaper than I can find it on x10.com and/or ebay.  And his shipping is ridiculously reasonable too.  Maybe it's old news, but just wanted people to know.

[dave w]

Are there any wall switches that do send x10 codes when activated locally? 

Yes
http://www.smarthome.com/4289/Leviton-Scene-Capable-X10-Dimmer-Switches-HCM06-1TW/p.aspx