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New X10 alarm panel!
« on: February 12, 2011, 12:32:15 AM »

This replaces the DS7000.  Notice it has wired inputs as well.  I especailly like the new model keychain remote.   

http://www.x10.com/promotions/sc12a_console_lcd_new.html

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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 06:15:07 AM »

X10 sent me an email alert on it yesterday.
Looks nice.
Lets see what the first purchasers have to say in their reviews.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 08:31:24 AM »

I bought the old one last week....maybe that's why they were on sale for $39 bucks...lol  The new one does have a few more features, but still happy with the DS7000 system. At the price paid including a few accessories, it was a cheap solution to home security and peace of mind when away from home.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 08:38:02 AM »

I believe that price is only for the console itself. Not a complete kit.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 10:01:14 AM »

Lets see what the first purchasers have to say in their reviews.
You mean the "beta testers" don't you.   ;D
Seems like a repackaged DS7000 merged with Telephone Responder. It looks nice...I may have to get one.
Would be really nice if X10 made the remote phone control of modules, full 256 HCUC capable, but I doubt they did that or it would be mentioned in the ad text.  :-\
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 10:17:37 AM »

Kind of looks like the Radio Shack 49-1000 security console. That was an OEM from X10. With some different features.

Lets hope they may make new sensors to go with it. As the RS ones had a saw frequency determining component and the door window sensor has a set of screw terminals for an external switch.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 10:29:45 AM »

Lets hope they may make new sensors to go with it. As the RS ones had a saw frequency determining component and the door window sensor has a set of screw terminals for an external switch.
Looks like you got your wish. The sensors are called "Smart Sensors" and the window sensor does have terminal extra for extra wired contacts. Pix are abot 3/4 way down the URL page.

Did the RS system have "Telephone Responder" features?
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 04:52:16 PM »

Yes it did have the telephone responder feature.
I originally said no but just looked at the 49-1000 kit users manual and it did.

I looked again at the link for the console.
The photos look almost identical to the console, sensors and remotes in the 49-1000 kit.
Including the two hard wired inputs and tamper switch.

It did have two security addresses for lamp modules to flash. Down side the dual addresses messed up the small and large powerhorn sirens. They didn't work or just chirped.  ::)

I have the schematics; parts lists and photos for the Radio Shack branded stuff from the FCC site.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 09:15:05 PM »

..... It did have two security addresses for lamp modules to flash. Down side the dual addresses messed up the small and large powerhorn sirens. They didn't work or just chirped.  ::)

No external siren connection... and powerhorns don't work ether?   Great.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2011, 10:33:48 PM »

nice new consol but 80.00 dollars shud come with at least new key chain remotes & or some moduals, and still no external siren hook ups. who's the person deisigning this stuff,  lose this person, doe'sn't have the products best interest at heart.

and the new key chain remotes look cool but shud of resiesd the buttons, you will have the same problem with the old ones acidently pressing the buttons wile in your pocket.

it is odveist the person deisigning this stuff doen't use it.
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 07:37:29 AM »

It was most likely designed in 2004 as it looks like the Radio Shack 49-1000 kit. Made for them as an OEM product by X10.

One other thing to note. The DS12A Door/Window sensor. It has an internal reed switch so the magnet and sensor have to be mounted next to each other. For some installations this could be a hindrance and the optional external switch connections maybe needed.

The prices are not that bad. You get more in the $149 kit from X10 than you did in the $149 49-1000 kit from the Shack.
49-1000 kit was console, X10 enabled wall wart power supply,  2 door/window sensors with magnets, 1 motion sensor, 1 keychain remote,mounting hardware packet.
Give it a few months and the prices will most likely drop. Seems most new products from X10 follow that course.

I still have a closeout 49-1000 kit buried somewhere.  :'
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 05:00:05 PM »

OK, Now I'm bummed again. For a while I thought X10 had actually hired a design engineer or two. It now appears they just hired a new person in China to scrape off the Radio Shark logo and replace with X10.    :'
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 06:22:48 PM »

Well I can't verify that 100%.
They could have done like other modules and redesigned to use modern parts.
Though mine is one of the few X10 devices not disassembled.

Maybe X10 will have the manual for it available to look at. That way we would know its exact setup.
The Radio Shack one is here but no guarantee it stayed the same.  ;D
http://www.radioshack.com/graphics/uc/rsk/Support/ProductManuals/4901000_PM_EN.pdf
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 06:58:02 PM »

Well I can't verify that 100%.
They could have done like other modules and redesigned to use modern parts.
Yeah, I was just joking, they probably are new build.

IMO it has been a looooong time since X10 brought out a "clean sheet of paper design" device. The Icon remote is the last "newthing" I can remember. This "new" alarm, is really an older design. The "Nstinct" is a repackaging of a remote X10 make for the Phillips name. The new featured wall switches and lamp modules is the old units with new PICS which actually came from the discontinued 2-Way modules.

I dunno, I just don't think they have any design engineering any more. Obviously there are a few software engineers and I am sure there is manufacturing engineering in Shenzhen, but I just don't see any indication of a true new design.  :'(


Deleted comment about keypad deactivation. This unit does incorporate it.

In fact everything said in this post has been said before. My rant serves no purpose so ADMINISTATOR please delete.  :-*
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Re: New X10 alarm panel!
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 07:05:22 PM »

It was most likely designed in 2004 as it looks like the Radio Shack 49-1000 kit. Made for them as an OEM product by X10.....
............ I still have a closeout 49-1000 kit buried somewhere.  :'

So is the a keypad behind one of those panels?
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