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alegon

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IR TO RF
« on: August 09, 2011, 02:09:20 PM »

I wonder if there are any x10 convert IR signals to X10.
I would use the X10 with RedEye, has anyone used it?
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Dan Lawrence

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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 03:24:14 PM »

X10 does not use IR signals.  Smarthome does, but the two protocols do not work together.
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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 03:31:33 PM »

Dan; Some of the X10 remotes can do X10 IR commands. They use the IR543; X10 IR to power line device.

alegon; You want to convert an X10 IR command to an X10 RF command?

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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 04:53:25 PM »

I wonder if there are any x10 convert IR signals to X10.
I would use the X10 with RedEye, has anyone used it?
I'm not aware of any off-the-shelf devices that do this. X-10's IR543 receives IR and transmits X-10 power-line codes. X-10's IR and RF protocols are completely different so you would need a device with an MCU and enough smarts to accomplish this. I have a design that can do this (and much more) but, given my age and the state of my health, it may never make it to the hardware stage and, if it does, might cost more than you want to pay for just IR-RF.

Is this the http://thinkflood.com/products/redeye/ the RedEye you mean? I seem to recall an earlier RedEye that just received IR and I believe there was a RedEye air-to-air missile.

EDIT: It was a surface-to-air heat-seeking missile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-43_Redeye
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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 09:45:15 PM »

I convert IR to X10. As well as X10 to IR.
I use the CM15A with a 24/7 Home Automation PC (required to run BVC) running XP (home) and Bill's Voice Commander (BVC) with the USB-UIRT.

BVC is a simple software designed to convert voice commands to X10 commands using AHP and the CM15A... but it can do much more.

Here is a youtube video I made showing how I used BVC to control an IR remote controlled fan.
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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 11:39:17 AM »

I want to use redeye (http://thinkflood.com/products/redeye/) to control lights using X10.
For this I need the computer to receive signals IR sent from redeye. I analyze the signal and sending commands BYe CM15 x10.
From what I understood IR543 receives a signal IR and turns it into RF. If so he may serve me.

Or I use USB-UIRT + X10 and do not use redeye.  Dan, you have examples of working with USB-UIRT?
I work with Visual Basic.
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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 12:44:01 PM »

No the IR543 receives an X10 encoded IR command and send it back on the power lines. To control X10 devices.
Many of the X10 remotes can also be switched to send an X10 IR command instead of the normally used X10 RF commands.
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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 12:46:08 PM »

From what I understood IR543 receives a signal IR and turns it into RF. If so he may serve me.
IR543 receives X-10 protocol IR and sends the appropriate power-line command - it does not send through-the-air RF. You need a source for the X-10 protocol IR. The protocol is documented at http://davehouston.org/ir.htm.

If you have arbitrary IR signals, you need something to transpose them into X-10 RF protocol for the CM15. This is not difficult to do with a PIC or AVR microcontroller. Mikroelectronika used to be free for programs less than 2K or so. They have compilers in several languages including Basic. The X-10 RF protocol is documented at http://davehouston.org/rf.htm. If you're in North America you can steal a 310MHz transmitter from an X-10 universal remote. If outside North America you can use any 433.92MHz transmitter like those listed at http://davehouston.org/modules.htm.
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Re: IR TO RF
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 02:17:18 PM »

....... The X-10 RF protocol is documented at http://davehouston.org/rf.htm. If you're in North America you can steal a 310MHz transmitter from an X-10 universal remote. If outside North America you can use any 433.92MHz transmitter like those listed at http://davehouston.org/modules.htm.

You the man dhouston. Nice to see you posting here.
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