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Noam

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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2011, 11:59:36 AM »
I know of a new product they are introducing soon, but I don't know many details, and I have no idea when.
I haven't heard anything one way or another about then shutting down the HA side of things.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2011, 12:03:13 PM »
Quote from: Noam on August 20, 2011, 10:11:12 PM
Not that I'm running out to buy one (yet - I haven't figured out what I would use it for), but have you tested the XTB-232 with the newer version of AHP - the ones that support the CM11A?

Just tested it with the new AHP version that I installed last week, and it seems to work fine.  I can control modules through the GUI, AHP tracks the changing dim status if a lamp module is controlled from a Maxi Controller, and the extended command status check for a LM14A reports when that module is switched on by local control.

The XTB-232 does not support any of the downloadable controller functions as it is just intended to work as a powerline interface for PC-based automation systems.

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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2011, 03:32:57 PM »
Update on the XPPF.
The EBay dealer I bought them from. Changed the price to two for $24.99  ::)
I believe the dealer is a honest person and will honor the price I paid for two two packs.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2011, 04:34:10 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on August 21, 2011, 03:32:57 PM
Update on the XPPF.
The EBay dealer I bought them from. Changed the price to two for $24.99  ::)
I believe the dealer is a honest person and will honor the price I paid for two two packs.


Yeah, I got a two pack of XPPF's from him last week for $8.40, and some WS467's for $6.95. I went back today to get some DS-10A's and noticed that his prices have tripled on almost everything. So have the other sellers.

What a difference a week makes. At least now I know why. I been using X-10 for security for 10 years or so, I guess now I should start looking for a whole system, that way I'll have parts to keep it running.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2011, 11:56:24 AM »
All those XPPF multi-packs from that one eBay dealer are gone now, as are all of his XPF multi-packs.

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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2011, 02:36:41 PM »
http://www.x10pro.com/

What is X-Elite??? Is this old?

Check out the X10Pro Logo!
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2011, 03:02:21 PM »
I believe it is a recent change. I only noticed the new logo a few months ago.

Maybe an improved site for what use to be the now suspended Affiliate Program.

Smarthome/Smartlabs also has what they call their SmartPro Line. For contractors. Some of those module are only available to certified dealers and installers. Like a wired in Dual Band coupler. That goes on the breaker box. We end users can't buy that module along with a few others.

Maybe the Elite Line is going to be similar. Stuff for dealers and contractors.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2011, 03:04:17 PM »
Quote from: B.A. on August 23, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
What is X-Elite??? Is this old?

The fact that the webpage was first copyright 1997 leads me to believe that it isn't exactly new.  Also in the list of products, it includes the CM11A, but not the CM15A.  As I understand, the CM11A was discontinued several years ago.

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Brian H

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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2011, 07:07:22 PM »
The dealer I got my XPPFs and HR12s from.
Only is listing single quantities and no HR12s at all.

I don't think X-Elite has arrived yet. As it indicated it is "Coming Soon".
Just like X10's stay tuned to ground breaking news.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2011, 07:23:10 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on August 23, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
The dealer I got my XPPFs and HR12s from.
Only is listing single quantities and no HR12s at all.

I've been picking up stock of a few items myself for new and former XTB customers.

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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2011, 08:05:59 PM »
Quote from: B.A. on August 23, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
http://www.x10pro.com/

What is X-Elite??? Is this old?
The protocol document linked to that page is many years old, referring to the X-10 PLC patent which expired about 18 years ago. It also badly distorts the truth saying, "The Line Monitor capability of the PSC05 allows the OEM to ensure that the power line is free from X-10 PRO signals before starting a transmission." which is totally false as the PSC05 delays the received signal until it has a complete code (22 half cycles) - there's no way to avoid collisions using it - you can only detect them after they have already occured.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2011, 02:45:41 PM »
Well I think the Air Pad announcemnt tells us the direction X10 is going. I think they are morphing out of design/manufacturing of HA, security, CCTV, products and in to catalog marketing of technical "gadgets". Notice the Air Pad ad, there is nothing connecting the "X10" Air Pad to anything reminescent of the old X10 product lines. 
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2011, 03:44:28 PM »
I suppose it beats going completely out business.  Apparently they are trying to salvage their sales, marketing and support infrastructure by moving on.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »
Jeff; I got the four XPPFs and the outlet is in the position we are use to.
Where Date Code 11E19.
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Re: Future of X10
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2011, 05:57:40 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on August 24, 2011, 04:43:36 PM
Jeff; I got the four XPPFs and the outlet is in the position we are use to.
Where Date Code 11E19.

Same as the batch I just got from another eBay dealer (for a higher price).

Jeff
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