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tom s

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Can't UpDate
« on: August 29, 2005, 08:03:58 AM »
Now when I go to update I get a error
message saying that AHP must Shut down?
Also after @ 9 days I have to redownload to
my 115A or everything just stops working.
The batteries in the unit are fine.
Any Help, I'm getting totally Fustrated
with AHP and the 115A at this point!!!
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tom s

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 10:56:40 PM »
ANYONE?????????????
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Arf1410

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 01:06:50 PM »
I assume you mean CM15A, not 115A?  If so,
join the crowd.  SteveRF on this forum is
about the only one I'm aware of who has a
CM15A that works continuosly while
disconnected from the PC.  I've done
warranty exchanges, and went thru 3 units -
none worked properly (my CM11A worked near
flawlessly).  I have no confidence in X10's
ability to get the product working. Enjoy
your $50 paperweight ...
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Tuicemen

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 03:20:15 PM »
Arf1410 : you can add me to the small list
of users that have a working cm15a.
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SteveRF

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 03:35:06 PM »
ARF,
Believe me ...my CM15A does in fact work
continuously 24/7 disconnected from the PC.
I run it from the utility room right next to
the passive coupler and it really does work
day in and day out for months and months
without any support.  As I have said in the
past, the only thing that fails
occassionally, is the CM's failure to respond
to 2 or more motion detector signals that
arrive at or near the same time.  I then have
to wait about 6-8 seconds for the MD to
recycle or manually push a button for the
lights.  That seems to be my only complaint
at the moment.  I was thinking about adding
cams but am not convinced of their video
quality yet.  One day it my all go haywire
but for now all seems to be well...  Diag
unit 04J44/4 Mar

Regards,
SteveRF
from Gulf Shores, Alabama
"We Survived Hurricane Katrina"
"We have power again !..Yippee"
"My daughter lives in New Orleans, her home
is underwater but she and the baby are here
and all is well"  We all count our blessings
more every day !  So many others have lost so
very very much.
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arf1410

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 11:50:10 PM »
sorry to leave you out, tuicemen. I
certainly have no hard data to guess
whether 10% of the units are working "as
advertised", or 90%, and can only speculate
why some units work, and others don't.
Tuicemen - was it your first unit that
works well, or an exhcnage / replacement /
later diagnostic unit?  One thing that
makes me a bit suspicious of X10, is they
have never provided any feedback about what
was learned (if anything) from the
diagnostic units.   In fact, didn't really
seem to have mch interest in collecting the
data.  Maybe these diag. units really have
had some bugs fixed, bt due to the expense,
rather than a full recall, they only gave
them out to those that squeaked the
loudest?  I've got 1 unit left , one of the
original ones, and the 1 year warranty
expires in about a month.  I have so little
confidence in a replacement unit that I am
hesitant to invest $6 in the return postage
to get it replaced...maybe I'll give in.
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JimC

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2005, 06:34:34 AM »
I too must be one of the lucky ones. My unit
has been working fine for many  months. Mine
is connected to the computer but the
computer is not on 24/7.
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JimC

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2005, 07:09:37 AM »
Steve RF,

Glad to hear you and your family are safe.
The property, although a great loss, can
always be replaced. I spent a year in
Biloxi  in the late 60’s. I left two weeks
before the nasty hurricane hit in 1969.
Moved to California and shortly after
arriving got to experience an earthquake.
Life is can be challenging no mater where
one lives.

Glad that my CM15a is no longer a challenge.
I have close to 30% of the memory consumed
by programs and my unit is still running
virtually trouble free. On rare occasion I
have to remove the batteries and reset the
unit but this is always after some heavy
armature radio operation. I suspect that
some RF from my transmitter is getting into
the unit and causing problems. I never have
problems with the unit otherwise. I do have
some issues with the software but these are
slowly being resolved.

Knowing what I know today, I would still buy
this product.

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Arf1410

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005, 12:28:21 PM »
what the heck, I'll spend another $6
postage and hope "4 times a charm"
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SteveRF

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 08:00:05 PM »
Jim, Thanks for thoughts !

Arf, I sure hope you get a good one this
time..you have suffered long enough and I
really would not blame you for bailing out..
Take Care,
SteveRF
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andre

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2005, 06:18:25 PM »
Hello everyone,
Back in mid August I had a look at the
schematics and surmised that the power
rails in the CM15A were not of high
quality.  Since then, I've added the
decoupling to my CM15A,  and it has
retained its sanity for the past couple of
weeks which is better that in the past.
The  components I added are 0.1uF 50V
capacitors  across the following
components:  U5: IN to COM  U5: OUT to COM
U2: pin 1 to pin 8  U1: pin 6 to pin 11  I
checked the signal coming from U4 and it
needs no additional filtering.  The base-
emitter junction of TR10 only see the
botton 0.7 volts of the AC line so any
noise on the waveform is filtered out.
The  data sheet for the microcontroller is
an  interesting read, it has the power-up
reset  circuit and watchdog that I observed
was  missing from the schematic of the
CM15A,  and Cypress confirmed for me that
they had  no issues in their database
regarding the  use of either of those
features.  If anyone has additional mods
they'd like  me to explore, pass them
along.  It's the  most fun I've had at work
in months.  Cheers.
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SteveRF

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2005, 01:41:17 PM »
Andre,
So how are the mods holding out ?
The caps you used are standard type not
electro type right ?   What ver is the CM15A
you are having trouble with... mine is 04J44
4 Mar.  Appreciate the feedback !
Regards,
SteveRF
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SteveRF

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2005, 01:46:06 PM »
Andre,
I saw your other thread post and that
answered my questions...
Thanks,
SteveRF
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martin wedepohl

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2005, 10:24:05 AM »
So back to the original message ... Why
does AHP shutdown with a Windoze error when
you try and update ... I've removed the
program ... re-installed it .. etc and it
still crashes when I update.  Mind you it
also crashes 50% of the time when I just
start up AHP.  It runs okay when
disconnected from the PC, but I'm unable to
download new information to the unit
because of the software crashes.
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andre

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Re: Can't UpDate
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2005, 11:23:49 PM »
Martin,
Can you provide a bit more information
about your system environment?
Applications get shut down by windows
because they have entered into conflict
with something else that is in memory. Have
you tried systematically removing other
applications that are in your start up to
see if they have any effect on AHP? Almost
every computer environment is different so
it's impossible to venture a guess right
off the bat.
Rgds,  Andre'
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