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[Tuicemen]

Say Tuicemen, when did you purchase yours maybe x10 has made some improvements or has resolved this problem. Thanks
tcj

I purchased back in Sept 2004 (I think, was one of the early ones to jump in) I was given a diagnostic version thing it was Feb 2005. I actualy had better range with my original version but the diagnostic unit fixed some other issues with flags and a few other things so I kept it!(didn't need 100+ foot  RF reception!) The diagnostic unit I think is what is being shipped now(not sure)
When I say I get 100 feet that is with a palm pad. As roger1818 stated you get less distance with the button cell transmitters the credit card remotes( total garbage) I can't get 4 ft but then I could only get 1 ft before the CM15A so even that is a improvement. The 4 button keyflob remotes I can get about 25 - 55ft depending on what is in between it and the CM15A.

[tom j]

say whats the advertised range anyway?

X10 Pro can correct me if I am wrong but I don't think a range has been advertised.  There are so many factors which affect range that it wouldn't mean much anyway (walls, elevation, transmitter strength and RF interference).  I like to classify transmitters into 4 categories: 4AAA, 2AAA and button cell.  Since the 4AAA transmitters run on 6V they have the best range, the 2AAA transmitters only run on 3V so they have a reduced range and the button cell transmitters tend to be small and so their antenna tends not to work as well (they tend to have the best range when either the top or bottom are pointing towards the transceiver).

Hi Roger yes I agree I was actually referring to a 4AAA, as far as I can figure the range I'm currently getting is less then 20 feet maybe 15 or there about. x10 usually list the range for their cameras at somewhere around 100 feet seems like I remember reading somewhere that the CM15A was suppose to be about the same. I understand that this may not be typical and could vary, but at least it gives you an idea. Actually I'm actually comparing it to a TM751 transceiver, I figure it's about a third of that and no where near the range of the PS561 alarm console. Say Roger by the way do you have the DS 7000 Protector Plus system, and Brian are you out there? need to get your help with something. Thanks

Tcj

[Brian H]

tom j; yes I am here and still have the DS7000 Kits; but am dumping most of my excess X10 stuff and the DS7000 Kits are set to be given away soon.

[roger1818]

Say Roger by the way do you have the DS 7000 Protector Plus system

No.  I had a professional system wired into my house when it was built.  Wireless systems are good for finished houses to save you from having to drag in wires but in my opinion you are better off with a wired system.  Eventually I want to link my alarm system to my home automation system so that that I can do things like turn on lights when I first enter the house.

[Dan Lawrence]

What kind of wired system?

I don't believe you can conect x10 to a professional wired system, the techology for X10 is not used in commercial wired systems. AFAIK.

[steven r]

...Eventually I want to link my alarm system to my home automation system so that that I can do things like turn on lights when I first enter the house.

Sounds like an application for a PowerFlash module. Ultimately a lot of what you're able to do will depend on the outputs your alarm system has. eg. While I don't believe my alarm system has any kind of external output when a door is opened, it does have a low voltage output when triggered. I have this low voltage trigger a PowerFlash to flash my lights in an alarm situation.

[roger1818]

What kind of wired system?

It is a Paradox Esprit.

I don't believe you can conect x10 to a professional wired system, the techology for X10 is not used in commercial wired systems. AFAIK.

The DSC Power632, Power832 and Power864 control panels for support the ESCORT™5580TC Telephone Interface & Automation Control Module which will give you X10 support.

Unfortunately the Paradox Esprit does not directly support X10.  I just noticed though that there is now a Magellan Wireless Expansion Module available for my system which might let me install a MG-6060 Magellan All-In-One Wireless Console which does support X10.  Alternately I could hack an alarm keypad and connect the appropriate signals to powerflash modules or upgrade my system to a DSC panel.  None of these options are overly attractive to me at the moment, so I am taking the wait and see approach for now.

[tom j]

tom j; yes I am here and still have the DS7000 Kits; but am dumping most of my excess X10 stuff and the DS7000 Kits are set to be given away soon.

Hi Brian the reason I was asking was because I am having problems with the motion detectors the MS 10A's Brian is your DS7000 still hooked up if so maybe you can help. Say Roger I'm currently working on a hardwired system myself. It's a DSC hybrid system and  supports wireless components I've been buying the stuff online a few components at a time and just about got all the wiring ran and most of the components but until I get it finished I'll be slugging it out with the DS7000. Like I was saying to Roger I'm having some problems with the MS 10A's in the 2 movement mode, bought that 8 pack a while back when x10 was practically giving them away (8 for the price of one). I now think I've discovered a design flaw and I'm looking for someone to help me possibly confirm it. Even though I'm moving away from the DS7000 if my suspicions are born out I think anybody depending on this product should be made aware of it.  See Ya Thanks!

Tcj

[Brian H]

Most of my X10 stuff is gone as of today. DS7000 was in the box of give aways. I can see if the X10 OEM for Radio Shack Security Motion Sensors do a similar thing.

[tom j]

Most of my X10 stuff is gone as of today. DS7000 was in the box of give aways. I can see if the X10 OEM for Radio Shack Security Motion Sensors do a similar thing.

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Hi Brian well this is what I discovered in he two step mode if you move very quickly through a room it appears that the MS 10A just sees that as one movement and won't trip the alarm. Bought that 8 pack last October and found about 80% of the units had this problem, a few of them would actually let me clean the house and never went off in the 2 movement mode!!! I was just trying to fine someone else to help me confirm my observation. I'm in the process of completing the installation of my wired  system well actually it's a hybrid with some wireless components. I was also actually able to climb through a dinning room window and the motion sensor never picked it up. I can't use the 1 movement mode because of all the false alarms. I actually put a few in a empty room pointing away from the windows and any heat source and within a few months all had tripped. I did manage to fine two maybe three units out of the 8 that appear to function properly in the 2 movement mode. I just think if someone is depending on this system to protect their home and possessions that they should be aware of this and hopefully x10 can correct these design/quality issues. Thanks

Tcj