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dave w

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Re: Ws467 can turn ON a bulb with his own button but refuse remotly
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2007, 12:01:23 PM »

Boiler,

I tried with other bulb, and same problem !
Maybe a total resistive can do a difference...
I will try to disconnect a ws467 and interchange a Bue Wire with Black wire...
Maybe a polarity can do a difference !

Thanks

A little late, but FWIW:
The WS467 doesn't give a rip which way it is connected. I always thought it would because connecting the blue wire to the hot would mean any X10 signal on the line would hit the choke first before getting to the controller chip and thus be attenuated...Kirchhoff's law says otherwise and apparently Kirkchoff is right, because I can't tell any difference in performance when exchanging the blue and black wire connections.
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Re: Ws467 can turn ON a bulb with his own button but refuse remotly
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2007, 12:08:02 PM »

A date code is: 06h35

Thank you for providing the date code.  I believe your unit is the older design and should conform to the schematics on the web.  This is a good thing.

I am still leaning toward a fixture (or fixture wiring) problem.

From your first post -
I tried with 3 incandescent bulbs 100 Watts, same problem !
I tried with 3 incandescent bulbs 25 Watts, same problem !
I tried with another WS467 and same problem !

From your 3'rd post

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I tried with one bulb 100Watts only, and ON command work fine...
if I add one or two others 60watt bulbs... refuse to work for ON command
If I use 3 bulbs 60Watts ... don't work for ON command

In summary,
  • You switch works normally when you activate it with the push-button.  This is NOT a triac problem.
  • The circuit works with a single 100 Watt load but not with two 100 watt loads (200 watt total) or three 25watt loads (75 watt total).

The fact that the circuit will function 100 a single load but not with multiple 25 or 100 watt loads make no sense - unless you have a fixture or fixture wiring problem.  As Dave_W so eliquently put it - the WS467 doesn't give a rip about the number of loads, just the type of load and the load resistance.

Please verify that you do not have a fixture problem as following.

  • Take a single bulb and operate it in each of your three light fixtures. If the bulb will operate in one fixture but not another, the fixture (or wiring) is at fault.

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Re: Ws467 can turn ON a bulb with his own button but refuse remotly
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2007, 12:47:05 PM »

Please verify that you do not have a fixture problem as following.
  • Take a single bulb and operate it in each of your three light fixtures. If the bulb will operate in one fixture but not another, the fixture (or wiring) is at fault.

My Ws467 worked fine while many months, and failed on week ago !
I tried with another Ws467 and I have a same problem !

I just replaced temporarily my Ws467 by LM465, and all work fine, 1, 2, or 3 bulbs !
Note that I was obligate to use a neutral wire !
Now, I can turn ON or OFF all time !
I installed this like this photo:


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Re: Ws467 can turn ON a bulb with his own button but refuse remotly
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2007, 12:55:05 PM »

...I installed this like this photo:


Wow! Talk about an inspector's nightmare. I hope you come up with a more permanent solution that doesn't risk getting your insurance canceled.
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Re: Ws467 can turn ON a bulb with his own button but refuse remotly
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2007, 01:03:38 PM »

Wow! Talk about an inspector's nightmare. I hope you come up with a more permanent solution that doesn't risk getting your insurance canceled.

Yes  :) ,  I will buy XPD3 or WS12A !
Maybe  XPDI3, XPS3 (with neutral wire) !
But I'm not sure that I have to buy !

I you have suggestion, you are welcome !

Thanks
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Re: Ws467 can turn ON a bulb with his own button but refuse remotly
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2007, 05:37:00 PM »

My problem is resolved ! I writing to tell you why I has this problem !

Here my setting:
- All my X10 Device are installing to PhaseA (no exception).
- MicroWave, 3 PC-Computer, 2TV, 2Satellite receiver, Freezer, etc are installing to PhaseB.
- 3 PC-computer, 2 TV, 2 Satellite receiver are all connected to once(same) AF120 (ACT) filter 15A module.

If I turn ON my PC-Computer AMD 1600Mhz, my WS467 refuse to turn ON 3 bulbs,  accept once bulb, and accept to turn OFF with 1,2 or 3 bulbs.

If I turn OFF my PC-Computer AMD 1600Mhz, my WS467 accept to turn ON or OFF 1,2 or 3 bulbs anytime.

So, my problem is really my AMD_PC_Computer_1600… but it connected to filter, and connected on PhaseB

PS: Note that I don’t have a phase coupler installed !

Why does this PC send a noise Through filter, and from PhaseB to PhaseA ?
Does noise can affect my Ws467 via airway ?
Does I will obligate to change PC's PowerSupplies for a better brand ?

Thanks
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