Thanks again, I'll take a look at the ambient stuff, I have heard that those weather stations have issues with the USB connection and the software that uploads the data. The NOAA National Weather Service would be a nice addition, since it is always a lot closer to my local temps than whatever PC Companion now uses. As I write, PC Companion reports 49, NOAA 46, the Weather Watcher Live, which is in fact from WeatherBug, reports 44, same as my outdoor thermometers, and the weather channel reports 45. I'll look to see if the next update includes this option. Thanks again