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[tom j]

Say this thing won't flash all the lights on your designated house code.     

Tom j.

[bigjohn9944]

It appears that is the case although I haven't tested it yet.
I'm an X10 reseller and took delivery today of the new console, sensors and remotes. I'll be temporarily replacing my DS7000 console with the new one to check range, reliability and exactly how it executes functions. I'll also be trying the sensors and remotes side by side with my existing ones.

I'll try to report my findings here.

One thing I noticed already was that the "rubber plugs" which the manual says are included to pop into the wall mount holes to angle the unit for table top use are NOT included.
The packaging leaves a lot to be desired. Just two bubble bags and stuffed into the same box used for the DS7000 console. No foam inserts for protection.

[Brian H]

Sounds good to me.
Someone that has both systems and can test side by side.

If you have a chance. See if Powerhorns work with it. I have the Radio Shack 49-1000 made by X10 a few years ago. That looks allot like the new X10 one. The dual security address on off and not all lights on all units off. Messed them up.

[mike]

i wonder if the new consol has good RF range i dont see an antena ?

THIS IS BEYOND CRITICAL!!!!!!  IF RANGE IS DOWN TO AHP RANGE IT IS USELESS.  NO ANTENNA??     PLEASSSSSSSSSE  SOMEONE COMPARE RANGE TO OLD UNIT!!!!!!!

[dave w]

 

[mike]

Sorry, I didn't mean to shout but I was excited....  maybe if someone just sets new up next to old and starts walking backwards pushing DISARM every 5 feet or so they could quickly hear range of one vs the other and report back?

[dave w]

Sorry, I didn't mean to shout but I was excited....  maybe if someone just sets new up next to old and starts walking backwards pushing DISARM every 5 feet or so they could quickly hear range of one vs the other and report back?

Yeah, I think I'm going to have to buy one of these, but like you, am waiting for "beta testers" reports. 

I think Brian H said earlier the Radio Shark sensors used SAW fliters to determine transmitter frequency. Likely these sensors are identical. That would improve frequency accuracy, and indicate (to me) that Radio Shark wanted to achieve a higher standard when they contracted the newer alarm system.

[Brian H]

Yes many of the newer X10 RF devices seem to be going to SAW filters for frequency determination.
In the photo of the Door Window sensor. I can see what looks like a SAW filter.

[dave w]

Yes many of the newer X10 RF devices seem to be going to SAW filters for frequency determination.

Does your Radio Shark base use a SAW for the receiver or just L-C?

[Brian H]

Since it had no RF transmitter in it. There was no FCC files for the main console.
I will look at my notes as I did have the cover off of mine and see if I can remember anything.
I never did a real distance test but I believe it was fairly far RF wise.

Maybe I can dig it out and see what I can find.
Like many of my goodies. It seems to be in one of the Storage Totes. 

Scary finding. The FCC number on the 49-1000 console is B4S-11BSC12A. Isn't the new X10 ones model a SC12A?

[bigjohn9944]

OK, here's what I've found so far.

When triggered, the new console will NOT flash all lights set to the same house code, only those set to the same light code that you select in the console and to that unit code + one. These two unit codes will also flash on and off when you arm the system in the away mode.

My PH508 works but must be set to the same unit code selected in the console. There appears to be a slightly longer delay before the horn activates than with the DS7000/PS561.

The new KR32A  remote does not work as specified in the manual, which says you can turn either of the two unit codes on and off using the remote by pressing the "A" buttons or the "B" buttons. They copied this directly from the RS 49-1000 instructions. The RS remote DOES have two sets of ON/OFF buttons, the bottom two function as the panic buttons when pressed together.

NOTE: I forgot to add that the on/off buttons on the remote control the SECOND unit code (the + one code) NOT the one selected in the console. My selected unit code is "7" but the remote controls only unit "8". I've verified this in the AHP Activity monitor which watches but doesn't transceive my houscode.
The range as far as my existing door sensors is the same as the DS7000/DS10A combination. I also used my DS7000 console as the transceiver for my house and the new console seems to be doing the same good job.

The rubber plugs mentioned in the manual for elevating the console for counter top use won't be happening. Another copy job from the 49-1000 manual.

I'll be doing further range testing with the KR32A remote outside and will fire up some of the DS12A sensors as well.

As they say on the nightly news teasers, FILM AT 11 

[Brian H]

Thanks for the update.

Will be waiting for more results.

That also means the Powerhorn setup in the wiki is also incorrect. It still says pick any unused unit code in the security house code.
Since the SC12A sends On and Off to the two security addresses and not All Lights On All Units Off. It would never trigger if set to one of the unused unit codes.

[dave w]

Maybe I can dig it out and see what I can find.
Like many of my goodies. It seems to be in one of the Storage Totes. 

Scary finding. The FCC number on the 49-1000 console is B4S-11BSC12A. Isn't the new X10 ones model a SC12A?

Don't go rooting around, it was just a curiosity question on my part. Not important.

The FCC nomenclature isn't surprising. I really don't think X10 Inc. has a viable design staff any more.

[Brian H]

dave w; I will not have to dig around for the 49-1000 kit.
bigjohn9944 seems to be finding that the SC12A and the 49-1000 are very close to each other operationally. 

[bigjohn9944]

MOST of the info in the WIKI is incorrect as most of it pertains to the DS7000. It even suggests using an SR731 to increase range.

Oh yeah, while I think of it, the two hardwire zones are for closed circuit sensors. There are jumpers on their terminals which need to be removed.

More later.