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with PH508 everytime when I use ARM HOME or ARM AWAY the PH508 always sound for 1-2 second

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vlong

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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2011, 12:58:15 PM »
well' now how do we know witch PowerHorn work %100 with new SC1200 :(
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2011, 02:12:31 AM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 25, 2011, 06:21:00 AM
All depends on the Powerhorns Date Code. Things have changed over the years.
My real old ones are 100% OK.
Both my 2010 models trigger but are not a constant the normal  high low sound. They sound four cycles then stop for ten seconds. Then again four more high low tones. Then stop again for ten seconds.

We have two threads here where arming the console causes the Powerhorn to sound and it should NOT sound on an arm action.

We also have a thread where even when set to a light code as required. They never get a siren sound, but I had then send the codes with the keypad and the Powerhorn DID sound!

This might work for me then whats the date code on the really old ones you said work perfectly. I have 4 that are fairly old. And did someone say the MS10 have difficulty communicating with the new console, thanks for the clarification!

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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2011, 07:38:58 AM »
Yes rhea did say in one of the threads. The DS10As work more slowly and I believe less distance. He also said he was getting a momentary sound when arming in one thread and insinuated was OK in another one?  ???

Sorry for the slightly different results but it look like exactly where in my house the console is and where the Powerhorn is changes things slightly. Retested this morning.

None of the PH508's I have work exactly like they do with the PS561 console in the DS7000 Kit. I would think the one second momentary pause on the older ones and louder sound. Would be acceptable to most users.
Tried them on both phases of the house. XTB-IIR running. Using two outlets. One on the same circuit as the console and the other outlet on the opposite phase. Results didn't vary enough to note.

Date Codes: 02H35, 05C10 and 05B09 {all older design. MUCH Louder than new ones} Took about ten seconds to trigger. Paused for 1 second then continuous high low tones.
Date Codes: 10L52 {PH508}, 10F25 {PSH01} {new design not nearly as loud as the old design} Took eight seconds to trigger. Four sets of high low tones. Pause ten seconds. Four more high low tones sets. Pause again for ten seconds.

I don't have any in the Date Code range. 08G31 and 09A03 vlong has or 07L52 rhea has. That where reported to sound on an arm function and none of mine sounded on an Arm.
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2011, 08:57:40 AM »
Brian H,

maybe you can swarp with me i send you one of my 09A03 and you send me one of your if you want to do data collection. I just hate momnetary sound when arm.
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2011, 07:31:57 AM »
vlong; A swap maybe possible. I have one powered on now. It was fresh from the package but 2005 date code. I wanted to give it some on time before committing.

PM me if you are interested.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2011, 10:04:05 AM by Brian H »
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2011, 11:48:55 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 27, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
vlong; A swap maybe possible. I have one powered on now. It was fresh from the package but 2005 date code. I wanted to give it some on time before committing.

Brian once again thank you sir, really appreciate the update. Say Vlong could you explain the range problem with the MS10a what kind of distances are we talking about. Thanks


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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2011, 06:06:34 AM »
Tom J. I believe it was rhea that reported the MS10As not working as well. In one of your threads.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=sftncamp06fnn8ljdhm6bj7j17&topic=22808.15
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2011, 04:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 27, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
vlong; A swap maybe possible. I have one powered on now. It was fresh from the package but 2005 date code. I wanted to give it some on time before committing.

PM me if you are interested.

check your pm
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #68 on: March 29, 2011, 02:05:14 AM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 28, 2011, 06:06:34 AM
Tom J. I believe it was rhea that reported the MS10As not working as well. In one of your threads.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=sftncamp06fnn8ljdhm6bj7j17&topic=22808.15


OK I got it but Jeez, why do you think the reduction in range with the MS10a's?? :(

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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2011, 06:08:21 AM »
Newer design.
Closer to ideal RF frequency as it uses a saw device for frequency determination.

Antenna orientation comes to mind. The SC1200 has its wrapped around the case so it is horizontal unless on a wall and the older console has a nice metal external vertical antenna. I would like to see a DS12A and DS10A tested with an older console.

As for the delay in tripping. Well it would not be hard to have one model set to one detect and the other one two detects needed to send an alarm.
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2011, 02:51:52 AM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 29, 2011, 06:08:21 AM
Newer design.
Closer to ideal RF frequency as it uses a saw device for frequency determination.

Antenna orientation comes to mind. The SC1200 has its wrapped around the case so it is horizontal unless on a wall and the older console has a nice metal external vertical antenna. I would like to see a DS12A and DS10A tested with an older console.

As for the delay in tripping. Well it would not be hard to have one model set to one detect and the other one two detects needed to send an alarm.

Let me make sure I understand is the range on the MS10a with the newer SC120 shorter then what you would get with the DS7000 console??
Thanks!

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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2011, 06:14:03 AM »
Well I don't know, but have seen other reporting poorer results with a DS10A over a DS12A.
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2011, 03:47:02 AM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 30, 2011, 06:14:03 AM
Well I don't know, but have seen other reporting poorer results with a DS10A over a DS12A.


OMG Then why are they including it in the packages they are selling.   ???   :(    ???

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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2011, 11:47:02 AM »
Quote from: Brian H on March 30, 2011, 06:14:03 AM
Well I don't know, but have seen other reporting poorer results with a DS10A over a DS12A.
  I have been using DS10As along with a PS561 earlier.
  When I received my first SC1200 kit, I just registered the existing DS10As.
  Many of the DS10As started failing at random: either signaling a low battery or a door open, but only to the SC12A, the PS561 which is still in service did not detect a problem.
  I suspected a range problem, so I installed a DS12A with an external switch, farther away than the DS10As, the DS12A never failed.
  I exchanged the SC12A for another, and relocated it to a more central location (the house is a 20 x 35 rectangle on 3 floors). The SC12A still see problems with the DS10As, none with the DS12A. The PS561 has no problem with either.
  One thing I noticed, when the DS10As fail, I can "revive" them by pushing the "Test" button. I suspect the nature of the signal is different than on an open/close than with the "Test" button. All my door/window sensors are set to a short delay".
  Eventually, I plan to migrate to all new sensors.
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Re: PH508 (Power Horn)
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2011, 06:20:20 PM »
Brian,

I received your PH508 it works.

thanks million :)
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