Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 11 ... 24

Author Topic: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)  (Read 357263 times)

Tuicemen

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 286
  • Posts: 10542
  • I don't work for X10, I use it successfuly!
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #120 on: March 04, 2006, 09:40:17 PM »

VCR Commander takes any RF signal and converts it to any IR signal that you specify! Problem is it is limited to 2 commands eg. record/stop :'(
Works fine for where I have it in the office! :) ;)
Logged
Please Read Topic:
General Forum Etiquette
Before you post!

Mystyx

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 3
  • Posts: 201
  • eye see you
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2006, 10:57:57 PM »

well if the powermid doesnt do it, Ill have to try make the TM751 RF to IR converter.
Logged
Anything is Possible, NOW!! But What can I afford?!
I Can't Afford Time, cause Money is so Important!!

Tuicemen

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 286
  • Posts: 10542
  • I don't work for X10, I use it successfuly!
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2006, 10:56:35 PM »

I just was informed from Bill that BXVC has always sent a duplicate RF signal for PLC so I guess the RF end of the problem is solved! ;) 8)
Logged
Please Read Topic:
General Forum Etiquette
Before you post!

-Bill- (of wgjohns.com)

  • Advanced Member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Helpful Post Rating: 81
  • Posts: 1340
  • He's just this guy. You know?
    • wgjohns.com
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #123 on: March 07, 2006, 12:00:53 AM »

Boy... ignore the forums for a little while and not only do they change, but they altogether move!  ???

Thanks, Tuicemen for alerting me to this thread.

Yes, BXVC has always sent both PLC and RF for every command.

I don't have a RF Commander so I don't know if it takes any special parameters to the SendRF function of the CM15a.  Anyone have any documentation or want to donate one?  :)

I am searching for a hardware interface (would prefer one with a Com or ActiveX driver like CM15a) so I can tell BXVC to "Turn up the TV" or "Change to channel 5" or "Let's watch a DVD".

Any suggestions?


Logged
-Bill- (of wgjohns.com)
bill@wgjohns.com

In the real world, the only constant is change.

When I'm online you can find me in the Home Automation Chat Room!

Mystyx

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 3
  • Posts: 201
  • eye see you
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #124 on: March 07, 2006, 02:25:13 AM »

Would a remote that can be programmed through a computer or connect for onscreen display/programming give the codes?
AHP & CM15A can send raw commands as RF Commands, would just need to save them in a computer?
Logged
Anything is Possible, NOW!! But What can I afford?!
I Can't Afford Time, cause Money is so Important!!

frank

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Helpful Post Rating: 0
  • Posts: 25
  • "All the time in the world..."
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #125 on: March 08, 2006, 01:40:44 PM »

Would a remote that can be programmed through a computer or connect for onscreen display/programming give the codes?
AHP & CM15A can send raw commands as RF Commands, would just need to save them in a computer?

Not an answer... but maybe related questions...

Where does the difficulty lie in transmitting IR from a PC? Aren't there IR emitters that can be hooked-up thru a port or a card?
I remember seeing a handheld remote that accepted voice commands like "volume up" and "channel down" last year at a J.C. Penney's store. It was like $35, so it can't be too "High-Tech". I don't think we're too far off the target.
Couldn't a Powermid Receiver Transmitter then receive this IR to make a dependable connection to wherever you have it [the Receiver] located? Having said that, can a Powermid Transmitter be hooked-up to a PC? Doesn't a Powermid change IR to RF, then Back to IR? Maybe while it's in RF, the RF can be "conditioned"?
Wow!  :o  Alot of questions.... sorry 'bout that. Just food for thought...  ;)
« Last Edit: March 08, 2006, 01:53:29 PM by frank »
Logged
A1 used to bring a sizzzzling steak to mind.........

frank

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Helpful Post Rating: 0
  • Posts: 25
  • "All the time in the world..."
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #126 on: March 08, 2006, 02:09:31 PM »

 :o YIKES!

Having actually read my previous post, I can see that I've only served to confuse the issue...  ???

The bottom line that I was hoping to convey was:

If, indeed, the Powermid Transmitter receives IR, then converts it to RF (to send to the Powermid Receiver)... couldn't the "IR reception step" by the Transmitter just be omitted? And instead, be forced to send RF data that is created by code that is formulated/conditioned on the PC?

I don't know if this would involve a hardware mod, or a software tweak. But, in my mind  ::), it seems like it would be possible.... or not. heh-heh! More food for thought... need sum'pin to wash it down.
Logged
A1 used to bring a sizzzzling steak to mind.........

Mystyx

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 3
  • Posts: 201
  • eye see you
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #127 on: March 08, 2006, 08:40:06 PM »

A million IR codes 40khz to program in, or download somewhere? somewhere there are codes that are programmed into each remote you buy now that you enter a code to transmit certain codes to your equipment.

we either need a reader to capture codes on your PC, or someplace to download the codes that are already created and preprogrammed into all universal remotes.

X10 programs each code for all your listed devices into thier remotes? how? where are the codes from?
Logged
Anything is Possible, NOW!! But What can I afford?!
I Can't Afford Time, cause Money is so Important!!

frank

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Helpful Post Rating: 0
  • Posts: 25
  • "All the time in the world..."
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #128 on: March 11, 2006, 02:44:12 AM »

A million IR codes 40khz to program in, or download somewhere? somewhere there are codes that are programmed into each remote you buy now that you enter a code to transmit certain codes to your equipment.

we either need a reader to capture codes on your PC, or someplace to download the codes that are already created and preprogrammed into all universal remotes.

X10 programs each code for all your listed devices into thier remotes? how? where are the codes from?


Are these the sort of things we should be investigating?

Codes, software, etc...
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles.cgi?area=prontong
Logged
A1 used to bring a sizzzzling steak to mind.........

phorce1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Helpful Post Rating: 3
  • Posts: 60
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2006, 02:25:29 AM »

Someone earlier in this thread asked about multiple mics (in multiple rooms).

Someone else said "should work but will add 'noise' to the input (ambient noise from multiple rooms).

So, here's a couple of questions and a suggestion for "tinkering geeks".

1. XCam addressable power supplies -- I know that at least in groups of 4 they are designed so only one will be ON at any given time (V-1 ON means V-2 to V-4 go OFF). Is this true if you put 16 of them on a single house code (ie. Turn V-1 ON and V-2 to V-16 go OFF automatically).?

2. In lieu of the above, is it possible to use the AHP software or one of the add-ons to simulate the same functionality? Ie. V-16 ON == V-1 to V-15 OFF, no way to turn on 2 units in the same house code.

OK, assuming one of the two above suggestions is possible.

FM transmitters the size of a U.S. quarter coin can be built for about $5 - $10 including a small surface mounted electret mic.

One could build a handful of them all tuned to the same "dead air' frequency and use a cheap FM radio with a headphone jack for output connected through a line-level converter to reduce the speaker-level output to line-level for plugging in to the sound card.

Put one in each room and power them with (XCam addressable supplies [1 above]) or (wall-warts plugged in to appliance modules [2 above]). Use motion sensors to turn them on as you enter the room and set the "off delay" to the max possible so they stay on. They will go off when you enter another room and cause the mic to be turned on.

Only one mic powered on at any given time so no extra noise.

With multiple family members you would have to find another control method or a way to leave them all on and reduce ambient noise. The circuitry used in noise cancelling headphones might be something to play with but would require mounting every mic between a small set of speakers.

With a bit of extra circuitry one could build a transmitter/mic capable of up to 300' transmissions in a package about the size of a deck of playing cards. Operate it with batteries and attach it to a KR22A to send a V-1 ON and kill the other mics and you would have a portable device that would be available even where there was no installed mic. Impress the neighbors by telling your house to turn on the Christmas lights while standing in the front yard. Use a timer circuit to turn it off after 30 - 45 seconds to conserve battery power. Tie the "power-on" button to the KR22A V-1 ON button to force you to hit it when you want to use the device.

Gerald
Logged

donald mcmow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 0
  • Posts: 306
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #130 on: April 04, 2006, 10:22:27 AM »

Dimmable compact fluorescents are available - I can't comment on their suitability or if the bulb life is reduced if dimming is used. I believe that they are available from Home Depot.
Logged

Tuicemen

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 286
  • Posts: 10542
  • I don't work for X10, I use it successfuly!
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #131 on: April 23, 2006, 04:13:41 PM »

phorce1: Another option for multiple mics in different rooms would be to use the one in each cam along with a motion sencor to trigger that cam in the previous thread someone there had suggested this and was trying it out. I also read somewhere that you can improve the mic sensitivity of the cam mic with a small cone making it more directional. As a side note I cleaned up some of the multiple posts on this and the previous thread so both are not so cluttered. ;)

I was talking with Bill and it looks as he is converting his program to VB 2005 same language as Dave's X10dispatcher and my AlertDialer are using. This should allow for even more options! ;) Can't wait for it! ;) :) Forgot to ask when he was expecting to release or how far allong he was! :( :-[
Logged
Please Read Topic:
General Forum Etiquette
Before you post!

Tuicemen

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Helpful Post Rating: 286
  • Posts: 10542
  • I don't work for X10, I use it successfuly!
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #132 on: April 23, 2006, 04:40:20 PM »

Get one of the wireless intercom systems,
take one of the feeds off of that into the
sound card (with some modifications).
 
You wouldn't even need to do any modifications as long as you just wanted to send a command the mic would pick up the command from the intercom just as it does from the computer speakers now with sounds from X10dispatcher,AlertDialer or any wave file.  ;)
Sounds like the easyest solution so far! ;) :)
Logged
Please Read Topic:
General Forum Etiquette
Before you post!

phorce1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Helpful Post Rating: 3
  • Posts: 60
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #133 on: April 30, 2006, 08:29:00 PM »

phorce1: Another option for multiple mics in different rooms would be to use the one in each cam along with a motion sencor to trigger that cam

I don't want cameras in my bathrooms.  :o

I was talking with Bill and it looks as he is converting his program to VB 2005 same language as Dave's X10dispatcher and my AlertDialer are using. This should allow for even more options! ;) Can't wait for it! ;) :) Forgot to ask when he was expecting to release or how far allong he was! :( :-[

That would be nice. The Java app is a bit of a hog on the system. VB should be nicer as a compiled app rather than a runtime interpreted app.

G2
Logged

specter333

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Helpful Post Rating: 0
  • Posts: 23
Re: BXVC (Bill's X10 Voice Commander) (JScript version)
« Reply #134 on: May 03, 2006, 10:35:07 AM »

Did you ever try your intercom idea?  I don’t see why that wouldn’t work as long as the speakers were clear enough.  I have had the “Star Trek” ideas about walking through the house and operating every appliance with voice commands too, but I don’t know if it’s realistic.  I know it can be done but the circumstances to make it work correctly are extreme.   

I assume the intercom your proposing is push button, meaning you walk up to the intercom, push a button to turn the mic on and then speak into it at a very close range.  If you did your modifications and wired the intercom directly into the computer, with some adjusting and trial and error, that should work well. 

If you do as the other guy suggested and put your mic by a intercom speaker, that should also work as long as the area where the mic is located is always quiet.  Which brings us to the pitfall of voice commands.

In order for any voice command or voice recognition software to work, your voice can be the only sound entering the microphone.  Software can not distinguish the difference between voices and any other noise and in turn tries to identify commands from any noise it hears.  Things like music, another person talking, a dishwasher running or a fan blowing air across the mic will interfere with the recognition.  If your giving commands while any other noise is being made the computer thinks that it is hearing one combined sound and can not distinguish the voice from the noise.

I am experimenting with voice commands and active home now, in hopes of installing a house wide system while remodeling my house.  I am using a fairly high quality mic/mixer/soundcard combo which I use for recording music.  It is an Audio Technica condenser mic ran through a behringer mixer and that goes through a M-Audio Delta 1010 computer interface.  I am getting incredible results with voice recognition with the microphone across the room which suggest that if I had mics in other rooms plugged into other channels of the mixer I would have control from other rooms the same as from here (my bedroom). 

That does not work, again because of the background noise.  Any open mic picks up a certain amount of noise even in a quiet room, this is called white noise, you may have heard about it from the movie, it’s what most people think is silence.  Several mics combing white noise into the mixer creates a loud background noise to the software, which again ruins speech recognition.  There is a way to try to combat this effect.

A tool we commonly use in the audio industry is a “noise gate” which does just what it sounds like it would do, it closes a gate or turns a mic off to keep noise from coming through.  The gate is opened when a sound gets above a certain volume.  A threshold level is used to adjust the gate to open at the optimum level.  This simulates some one turning on only the mic in the room your giving commands in.  In a quiet environment this would, in theory anyway, work well.  But in reality it will only work if for instance your wife isn’t in the other room vacuuming.  Then the noise of the vacuum would open the gate in that room and confuse the voice recognition.

I am using “Realize Voice” instead of “BXVC” because I use it for more than just “Active Home”.  If you only want to control Active Home, BXVC is incredible.   I also use it to check email, play games, open other programs and to some extent navigate through windows and the web.  This brings up another concern which I may put in another post.  If anyone knows a good way the interface Active Home and Realize Voice I would appreciate some advice.  The only way I can figure to do it is to simply record keyboard and mouse clicks.  This is not very efficient and relies on the icons in Active Home to be in the same place always. 

Anyway, the reason I bring that up is because Realize Voice has a pause mode (don’t know if BXVC does or not) which lets you stop voice recognition, with a voice command, in a noisy environment except for listening for one specific command which un-pauses.  It can also be set to pause after a length of time with no voice recognition and it also seems to pause itself when there is too much background noise.  This allows you to have voice command active all the time but paused when it’s too noisy.  To use voice recognition after it’s been paused you have to first use the “Wake Up” command and then the command of your choice.   

After all is said and done, we should be able to make our home appliances in every room respond to voice commands but it still is dependant on having a quiet environment. 

Hope I have been of some help.


Logged
Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 11 ... 24
 

X10.com | About X10 | X10 Security Systems | Cameras| Package Deals
© Copyright 2014-2016 X10.com All rights reserved.