Dave, If your referring to me on how the camera is working out, it isn't.I was shy one piece of my order and got disgusted with this bickering, deleted my original postings about being dissastified with this from the beginning when they sent me the itemized confirmation without some of the products I ordered on it..Then when I came to the forum and stated my dissastifaction I felt ganged up on and adrenalin kicked in triggering the "fight or flight" syndrome, and not being one to run I felt I had to defend myself and felt ganged up on since then.When I received my order and all this about paying shipment to send it back, I merely sold both orders for half of what I paid taking a loss rather than continue this...Then I held off and seen others commenting on not getting part of thier items being shipped and felt impelled to once again take a stance and state my opinion..actually I am tirwed of this mess..I sold my items and never even attempted to hook them up over this mess..I am trying to dig somewhere deep inside myself and trying to look at both sides.I may..I said may actually reconsider once again ordering some more once I see the person I sold my items too SUCCESSFULLY get them going ..but untill then..I am just through with this bickering..and want to hang out in the forum and check things out..I am through with this bickering, and hopefully others will see this too..This isn't good for any of us..When i see the items work..I may once again order some more..but not if this bickering continues..at least directed toward me..Thanks