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Author Topic: ADI Ocelot Home Automation Controller with SECU-16 and SECU-16IR i/o modules  (Read 1809 times)

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Just secured the above on an eBay auction and was wondering if anyone could give me a bit of background on these units and if you own any of them what are you using them for. Thanks.
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See...
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=30479.msg175796#msg175796

Thanks @dhouston Iíve never used x10 via IR. Some very interesting features on those units. Do you still use your Ocelot.
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Thanks @dhouston Iíve never used x10 via IR. Some very interesting features on those units. Do you still use your Ocelot.
No, but I believe Jeff Volp still does.
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Thanks @dhouston Iíve never used x10 via IR. Some very interesting features on those units. Do you still use your Ocelot.
No, but I believe Jeff Volp still does.

Just checked and they are still on sale and quite expensive. Any idea what language the C-Max software is written in. I found this application that seems to support it. http://www.power-home.com/forum/default.asp
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Any idea what language the C-Max software is written in.
No, I don't know any details on the language used although C-Max used ladder logic which was widely used in early industrial automation and even in pinball machines. From that I would assume that the microcontroller used was one used in programmable logic controllers (PLC) which might constrain the programming language choice(s). Of course, my experience was more than 20 years ago so they may have made changes. However, I've long thought the use of ladder logic was a reason why their market was smaller than it might have been with an easier language. From the Wikipedia citation (linked above)..."In 2019, IEEE Spectrum ranked ladder logic as number 50 out of 52 in a list of popular programming languages."
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Any idea what language the C-Max software is written in.
No, I don't know any details on the language used although C-Max used ladder logic which was widely used in early industrial automation and even in pinball machines. From that I would assume that the microcontroller used was one used in programmable logic controllers (PLC) which might constrain the programming language choice(s). Of course, my experience was more than 20 years ago so they may have made changes. However, I've long thought the use of ladder logic was a reason why their market was smaller than it might have been with an easier language. From the Wikipedia citation (linked above)..."In 2019, IEEE Spectrum ranked ladder logic as number 50 out of 52 in a list of popular programming languages."

Thanks Dave

Seems the unit was designed with the industrial sector in mind. Might account for itís original sale price tag too. To be honest I bid on the units out of curiosity and at $35 winning price it wonít break the bank. They are fairly well documented instructions wise so Iíll wait till they arrive and see what happens. Hopefully they wonít become another set of shelf warmers. rofl
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Seems the unit was designed with the industrial sector in mind. Might account for itís original sale price tag too. To be honest I bid on the units out of curiosity and at $35 winning price it wonít break the bank. They are fairly well documented instructions wise so Iíll wait till they arrive and see what happens. Hopefully they wonít become another set of shelf warmers. rofl

Prior to the CPU-XA & Ocelot, Applied Digital was primarily a supplier of industrial (and theatrical) lighting control systems. I don't know if their location in Branson, Missouri was a factor but Branson would have been an active market for theatrical lighting.

I may be misremembering but I don't think their initial prices were all that high. I bought the CPU-XA but they gave me the Ocelot and Leopard so that might be influencing my memory.

I think you will be happy with your purchase.
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Seems the unit was designed with the industrial sector in mind. Might account for itís original sale price tag too. To be honest I bid on the units out of curiosity and at $35 winning price it wonít break the bank. They are fairly well documented instructions wise so Iíll wait till they arrive and see what happens. Hopefully they wonít become another set of shelf warmers. rofl

Prior to the CPU-XA & Ocelot, Applied Digital was primarily a supplier of industrial (and theatrical) lighting control systems. I don't know if their location in Branson, Missouri was a factor but Branson would have been an active market for theatrical lighting.

I may be misremembering but I don't think their initial prices were all that high. I bought the CPU-XA but they gave me the Ocelot and Leopard so that might be influencing my memory.

I think you will be happy with your purchase.

Just going by these price lists what I got would retail for over $400 so I think it was worth the winning bid. Fingers crossed I get some practical use from it. https://www.homecontrols.com/Adicon-Ocelot-Stand-Alone-Controller-ATOCELOT
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Just going by these price lists what I got would retail for over $400 so I think it was worth the winning bid. Fingers crossed I get some practical use from it. https://www.homecontrols.com/Adicon-Ocelot-Stand-Alone-Controller-ATOCELOT

This post from Jeff Volp a couple of years ago will give you an inkling of the potential.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=30479.msg175777#msg175777

And, as I noted in that thread, you can add internet control very easily via an ethernet-to-serial adapter.
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Just going by these price lists what I got would retail for over $400 so I think it was worth the winning bid. Fingers crossed I get some practical use from it. https://www.homecontrols.com/Adicon-Ocelot-Stand-Alone-Controller-ATOCELOT

This post from Jeff Volp a couple of years ago will give you an inkling of the potential.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=30479.msg175777#msg175777

And, as I noted in that thread, you can add internet control very easily via an ethernet-to-serial adapter.

Thatís great Dave. Thanks again for that.
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I've been using an Ocelot here since 2003.  Except for some quirky operation several years ago traced to a dried out electrolytic (easily replaced), it has been an excellent controller.  CMax took some time to understand, but it can do logic functions and simple math.  I added the SECU16 for additional I/O.  I have not used its IR capability.

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@petera,
This link may prove helpful.
https://people.math.osu.edu/alden.1/ocelot/CPUXAProgramFormat.html
It details C-Max as it was used on the CPU-XA (forerunner to the Ocelot). It has been far too many years since I played with C-Max and I don't recall whether there were substantial differences between the CPU-XA and Ocelot in terms of programming. Perhaps Jeff can comment on the link.

There are several more links here...http://www.linuxha.com/athome/common/cpuxad/index.html
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@petera,
This link may prove helpful.
https://people.math.osu.edu/alden.1/ocelot/CPUXAProgramFormat.html
It details C-Max as it was used on the CPU-XA (forerunner to the Ocelot). It has been far too many years since I played with C-Max and I don't recall whether there were substantial differences between the CPU-XA and Ocelot in terms of programming. Perhaps Jeff can comment on the link.

There are several more links here...http://www.linuxha.com/athome/common/cpuxad/index.html

They are very useful links Dave particularly the references to IR Tools. Thanks again for that.
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If you haven't already, I suggest downloading the manual from ADI:

http://appdig.com/manual/Ocelot-2.pdf

And download a copy of CMax and start working with it:

http://www.appdig.com/cmax20/cmaxv200ex318.EXE

Jeff
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