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001 Tom Atkinson: Alarm System
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002 Larr S: Watching The Birdhouse
- 0 (0%)
003 Hilario: Fish Tank Remedy
- 1 (1%)
004 Nick Stefanisko: "Home Link" Garage Door Opener
- 1 (1%)
005 John Hudak: Cutting Light Power-Usage In Half
- 0 (0%)
006 Carmen Knowles: Velcro Strips Support Alarm System
- 1 (1%)
007 Fifo: Home Security Lights & More
- 0 (0%)
008 320vu50: Rope Light Strings For Car
- 0 (0%)
009 David3336: X10 Man's Website
- 4 (4.1%)
010 Rick: ActiveHome Pro's Many Uses
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011 Cathy Correia: Wildlife In The Fields
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012 Frank H: Christmas Fantasyland
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013 Raymond Little: Apartment Safety
- 13 (13.4%)
014 HomeVista: Surprise party
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015 ChronicTom: Our Strawbale Home
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016 Robert K: X10 Home Integration
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017 Nishant: Multiple Ideas
- 1 (1%)
018 MkGriff: Wheelchair Assistance
- 0 (0%)
019 Ryan Klein: Pickup Truck Assistance
- 0 (0%)
020 LeeBear35: Raised Ceiling Solutions
- 0 (0%)
021 GJ: Vanguard Security
- 1 (1%)
022 John Carter: Elderly Family Member Assistance
- 0 (0%)
023 SCCRON: Monitoring Cabin From Afar
- 0 (0%)
024 RobTog: Neighborly Lighting
- 0 (0%)
025 Steven R: Love My Macros
- 1 (1%)
026 James Shoemaker: Private Lake Traffic Light
- 1 (1%)
027 Access Guru: Camera Kits For Security
- 0 (0%)
028 ComputerPal: I Love My ActiveHome!
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029 JHW: Hot Water Recirculation System
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030 Azzar0: Wife Tired of Gadgets, But Loves the Results
- 1 (1%)
031 JBWebmaker: Sharing The Pastor's Message
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032 ShiledFP18: Police Officer uses Cameras
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033 Steffen: Surveillance - Surveillance - Surveillance
- 1 (1%)
034 SoundMan: Video Stream Church Services
- 0 (0%)
035 RMurphy1061: Daycare Assurances
- 0 (0%)
036 RemoteControlHome: Home Adjustments....Away From Home
- 1 (1%)
037 Sgt. Adam Jackson: Family Security While In Iraq
- 0 (0%)
038 Moe: Motion Sensors Save Energy
- 0 (0%)
039 Pat Foslien: Catching Illegal Trash Dumpers
- 0 (0%)
040 Raylad: Monitoring Roadway Areas
- 1 (1%)
041 Invntrr: Computer Security
- 0 (0%)
042 SLCMotor: X10 Pro Light Control
- 0 (0%)
043Mr Justice: School District Yard Duty
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044 RAM: Safeguards From Lockbumping
- 3 (3.1%)
045 NSwint: Multipurpose Uses
- 1 (1%)
046 Kane293: Camera Babysitting
- 0 (0%)
047 Tahir: Light & Energy Conservation
- 0 (0%)
048 Bruce Farley: Remote Door Lock/Unlock Idea
- 1 (1%)
049 Dave Carr: Home Business Security
- 1 (1%)
050 Ken Marcus Jr.: Car Dash Cam
- 1 (1%)
051 Jeffrey Golde: RoboDog Protects The Garden
- 0 (0%)
052 NSwint: Great Product Ideas
- 1 (1%)
053 White Cobra: Remote Control Truck View
- 0 (0%)
054 Olstyl1972: Seizure Assistance
- 0 (0%)
055 Joe42353: My "Home Of The Future"
- 1 (1%)
056 ASnider123: A Camera To Save Lives For Truckers
- 0 (0%)
057 Raybo: "Horsesitting"
- 0 (0%)
058 TechnoBoard: Eureka! Closer To A Smarter Home!
- 0 (0%)
059 Bernard Piorek: My ActiveHome
- 0 (0%)
060 MartySan: RV Rearview-monitoring System
- 0 (0%)
061 Kevin Vega: Helpful Ideas
- 0 (0%)
062 DaveHTX: Halloween Uses
- 0 (0%)
063 Aaron Weinberg: Hottub Control
- 0 (0%)
064 Alfonso78: A Secure Home...While Home Or Away
- 2 (2.1%)
065 Goaltra: 40 Units And Still Going!
- 1 (1%)
066 P McKenzie: My NannyCam
- 0 (0%)
067 Never2Old: Electronic Thermometer Monitoring
- 0 (0%)
068 Dvlasman: Home Security
- 0 (0%)
069 John Tryggeseth: X10 And Our Pets
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070 Craig7959: Imagination Is The Only Limit
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071 Francis Bauer: Model Railroad Watching
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072 Michaech: Lamp Module Light Control
- 0 (0%)
073 Dan Harrison: Parkig Lot Management
- 0 (0%)
074 Donald Paden: Amputee Assistance
- 0 (0%)
075 Roger Paolangeli: Very Dependable Security System
- 0 (0%)
076 BNTolbert: A Fully-Working X10 System
- 0 (0%)
077 Midd: Catching The Christmas Grinch
- 0 (0%)
078 Keith MIllet: 4-Camera Instant Viewing
- 0 (0%)
079 KDR: An Older Home Built For The Future
- 7 (7.2%)
080 Dave x10 L: An Awesome Home Theatre System
- 19 (19.6%)
081 We4t: Birdwatching With X10
- 0 (0%)
082 John Ivey: X10 Private Investigator
- 1 (1%)
083 SooperGrape: State of the Art Search System
- 0 (0%)
084 I Bell: My ActiveHome Pro Assortment
- 0 (0%)
085 DorkyAngel: Alzheimer's Support With The XCam
- 0 (0%)
086 Greg Herd: An Entertaining Halloween Display
- 1 (1%)
087 M. Smits: The Bedroom Ceiling Fan
- 1 (1%)
088 Mitchel: A Single Dad's Peace of Mind
- 1 (1%)
089 Spam4Us: A 256 Sensor Security System Idea
- 4 (4.1%)
090 John Daigle: Solar-Powered Motion Sensors?
- 0 (0%)
091 Jim Phillips: 20 Years With X10
- 1 (1%)
092 Bronco: Keeping Raccoons Away
- 3 (3.1%)
093 Kendaman: X10 Access From Anywhere Worldwide!
- 1 (1%)
094 FGuadalupe: Fiber Optics & Wireless Cameras
- 0 (0%)
095 Bill P: X10 & Model Railroad Layout
- 0 (0%)
096 EWPWBWI: Using X10 To Save Money!
- 0 (0%)
097 Michael Goodrich: The X10 Telephone Responder is HOT!
- 0 (0%)
098 CheckedOut: Cooling Down The Cats In Heat
- 0 (0%)
099 Joe Rupp: X10 Travels With The Travel Trailer
- 1 (1%)
100 BraTTy: Protecting The Autobody Shop
- 0 (0%)
101 Moises: Security & Automation Combined
- 1 (1%)
102 Sookatech: Controlling bathroom Exhaust Fans
- 0 (0%)
103 RRivera: A Better Doorbell Idea
- 0 (0%)
104 Mike Lowery: Elementary My Dear
- 1 (1%)
105 RaymondLittl1e: X10 Camera Spotlight Idea
- 15 (15.5%)

Total Members Voted: 48

Voting closed: October 01, 2007, 07:43:34 PM


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Author Topic: [Closed] X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!  (Read 286269 times)

Mr Justice

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2007, 08:21:05 PM »

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Hi, I work for the school dist and I do yard duty. And I think everyone knows that during recess the kids have problems with getting along with other students. What i did was set up motion sensors & cameras around the playground so when the kids are outside the cameras start. Than when students come to me saying mark hit me first or kim did this I tell them to go play somewhere else away from the other student and I will come and talk to them after recess. What I do is go check the video and guess what mark did hit her first. And when I gotalk to the students they do not know how I am always right. The Name "Mr. Justice"



« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 02:18:09 PM by mmallari »
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Ram

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My Idea of a X10 Secured home
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2007, 11:18:19 PM »

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Hello All
First off, even if I dont win ...Please use the idea if it applies to you, we are obviously here because we know the danger out there. My house was robbed twice in two weeks in May and I lost 15K plus that I am still paying. I am ordering my X10 system after EXTENSIVE research on different
available systems.

Heres why you buy their products in my opinion
a.   X10 can offer a single product that can not only monitor but also record in TWO different places in your house (see diagram, recording in secure closet area and monitor in your living room!).
This is not offered by many out there for the price.
b.  Its weather proof and they are claiming so very positively. This is hard because a lot of them are dodgy out there with their words.
c.  Bundle prices are much cheaper.

Ok, I dont want to sound like a sales man now. Only my opinion. Here is what I would like to propose to secure your house.  I am not including the security system because thats everybodys deciision on what their needs are. Assuming you have a security system in your house, I would like to show what I did to my house to secure it.

Only two locks in the Market are truly bump proof (takes 2 seconds to open ur lock using bumping), drill proof and pick proof.  Madeco and Mul-T.

Maindoor -

Locks: Use a Kwikset Smartkey(this lock is bump proof to an extent, will delay the theif) for the twisting knob and a MUL-T for your deadbolt, always use a double cylinder in your deadbolt so if anybody
EVER gets in he Cant GET OUT! : ) ...BUY A LONGER LOCK PLATE FOR YOUR PILLar from home depot (10 bucks), prevents kick in.
Cameras: Now use a low light camera in your maindoor and mount it high with a motion sensor so you can have your instant on for visitors. You probably dont need to set this to record because your door should be safe with the locks you have in place.

Living room: Every theif that comes to your house in my opinion WILL cross your living room, best place to keep your pan tilt X10 that you can view through your computer.

Bedroom and Closet - Remember you can only watch and record in your computer if the theif doesn take it right? :) not to worry, put a kwikset commercial smart key lock. this will prevent him( remember he already has to  break in through two tough locks to get in, plus the alarm is going off, he doesn have much time).

put your VCR commander and yoru VCR in the closer (if you want more protection, put another smart key kwikset (these are like 20 bucks a piece). you only want MULT and Madeco for your maindoor and balcony door).

Balcony Door - Weakest link in your house these are usually double doors or sliding doors, My advise secure your weakest link the most, if its double door geta  MADECO and put a latch with a padlock.
X10 - Mount a instant on (you WANT this in your balcony because you want to record as soon as possible, there should not be much movement in your balcony  (especially if its screened)).

There is more to what I am doing to my house but I hope this explains a general idea of how I plan to secure my house. Remember, the theif is looking for a easy hit, if he sees all the warnings and the lock makes and the camera, he is probably already out. I hope my experience helps someone.  I am attaching a rough illustration for my design.


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nswint

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2007, 11:23:30 PM »

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I use X10 for the following:

Energy Saving
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Turning off lights when motion is no longer detected (Activehome Pro/Misterhouse)
Ceiling fan control with X10Pro Fixture Module
Thermostat Trickery with Thermostat Set-back controller

Security - Hybrid X10 (Activehome Pro and OnAlert/Misterhouse) and DSC Security System
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Modulated Security Channel using the Nightwatch2
Door/Window Sensors
Motion Sensors
Security Remotes
Security Cameras using the Xcam Anywhere, Xcam2 Wideye, and Nightwatch2
Mailbox Monitoring with Door/Window Sensor and EagleEye Motion Sensor
Garage Door Automation with Door/Window Sensor and Universal Module

Home Automation
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Lighting and Fan Control with Wall Switch Modules,Dimmer/Fixture Modules, Lamp Modules, and Sockrocket
Garage Door Automation with Door/Window Sensor and Universal Module
Remote Modulated Cablebox Control with Powermid
PC Control using Appliance Modules(x10ping/perl scripts):  Cable Modem, Voip Adapter, Workstations
Control using Mini/Maxi Controllers, Keychain/Palmpad Remotes, Slimline Switches

Entertainment
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iconRemote controlling:  TV, DVD, Cable DVR, Receiver
Remote Modulated Cablebox Control with Powermid
Ligthing macros using iconRemote and Infrared Mini-controller
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kane293

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2007, 03:17:27 AM »

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We use our cameras as a kind of baby sitter. ;)  We have a 15 year old with ADHD ODD. With the help fron the X10 cameras We keep a close eye over things while he is home alone. This has save us many a disaster. as he is always in to things and doing things he is not to do. If I happen to see him doing something on the camers and he denies it, ::)   ??? I simpley show him the proof.  :o This has helped a lot to help manage his temptations such as over eating and messing with our this he is not to touch, IE Lap Top, and several other things  :)
« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 02:45:47 PM by mmallari »
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Tahir

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2007, 03:55:44 AM »

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About 90% of lights and lamps in my apartment at X10 enabled. For my lamps I use X10 Lamp Modules and for all other bulbs I use Socket Rockets. There is atleast 1 light in every room that is motion sensor triggered. Lights in my bathroom and closet are time triggered using Home Automation software. Recently I installed 2 X10 wireless cameras, one at my front door and one in the lounge. I have a TV tuner card installed in my computer, and using that I can easily see what is going on in the lounge andat my front door.

My kids used to leave the on at nights, and for that I have installed a Appliance module for my TV, and configured it to turn off at 11:00 PM using Home Activation software.

I always had problems with my front door lights. I daily had to go out and turn them on at night and then turn them off in the morning. I hated that !!! Now with the help of socket rocket and Home Automation software, I don't even need to worry about my front door lights. They automatically turn on in the evening and turn off in the morning.

I love the macros in the Home Activation software. I have created tons of macros to automate my lights.
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Bruce Farley

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2007, 05:13:34 AM »

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X10
I would like to see an X10 remote door lock/unlock
as a senior this would come in mighty handy,when yo need to
open a for someone without getting up to do it.

Thank You
B.Farley
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Dave Carr

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« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2007, 07:32:51 AM »

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I use my X10 for security only at this time, whenever I go away from home and my sensors are triggered ie: anybody gains entrance my X10 calls my cell phone so I know about it no matter where I am.  This has happened once already and the X10 Called my cellphone, then I in turn called the police and in a matter of minutes I got a call back from the police.   I love X10, makes me feel really secure as I run a business from my home with lots of inventory.
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Ken Marcus Jr.

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« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2007, 08:32:37 AM »

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I use the x10 in my car like a dash cam, i also use it to catch the little punks doing damage to my car when I'm sleeping.
But what i use it the most for is to surveillance my place of work when I'm not there , to keep an eye on the way the others perform their duties , and that they are up to state and federal laws.

I will streemline the signal over the internet and view it at home or at work. I use my x10 to the fullest.

This product is the best for the price being asked anywhere.
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Jeffrey Golde

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« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2007, 09:52:32 AM »

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I have been using X10 products since the 70's .Then it was called BSR. I used a X10 remote to interface the central control, which turned on all the exhibits at the Ontario Science Centre in Toronto .  At Christmas  , I would control my Christmas lights, as well as the neighbours across the road. Spring time I would  use Robo Dog  to keep wild animals away from the vegetable garden . When our paper is delivered up our driveway during the night , a motion sensor turns on our outside lights for him  . Because I mounted the motion sensor behind the out side light, it would think that it is daytime , and turn off about 1 minute later .Great product ,thank you.Regards , Jeffrey.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 02:52:21 PM by mmallari »
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nswint

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2007, 11:01:26 AM »

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Yo X10!  I have a great product ideas.

Step up the CM15A to the next level and make it a 802.11x & 10/100/1000 and possible POE Plugin Network Appliance.  I can send x10 signals over the network, over the air, and normally over the powerline.  You would have to tweak the current modules, they probably need it to have some onboard circuitry to allow 802.11x communications.  I don't know if you'll need to do some FCC stuff for this.  This way you have 2 way communication and communication could be 100's of times faster over ip than with powerline unless you have some POE component that could be backwards compatible. It could be your all-in-1 wireless router with firewall. Think Apple airport on steroids.  I think that it might be running OSX Lite code to accomplish all what it's doing now.
That way it can always be on and not connected to a computer.  It will need to be tweaked to allow rf from cameras and save to a remote networking share or external drive for video and photos
Sell it appropriately and have essentially AHP and the macros that you can purchase with the same manner with a registration key.

Here's the rundown:
*OS:  Windows CE, XP Embedded, or roll your own OS
*RAM:  Enough to run the app, os, and ahp with alot of modules and macros 512/1024
*Connectivity:  10/100/1000 (POE) Ethernet Port, High output 802.11x Antenna, Modem for Callerid and Dialing
*X10:  High Output RF Antenna W800RF Like all wrapped up in compact antenna for RF Sensor, Remotes, and X10 Cameras
*New features: 
*Dialing for certain conditions over the modem or SIP (Vonage/Asterisk)
*Browser interface (IE/Firefox/Opera) Please no activex trickery :-)
*USB Interface(s) for external storage/printing/peripherals and also usb hubs


I'll add more but I'll have to run.
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White Cobra

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« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2007, 11:34:57 AM »

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I plan on putting a wireless cam on my  remote controld truck and go for a drive without leaving the house!
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olstyl1972

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« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2007, 12:43:07 PM »

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our daughter has seizures. they always happen in the middle of the night and her doctor said it would be helpful if we could capture one of her episodes on video. But when she would have one, by the time i could get the camcorder on it would be over. So we got the idea to put an eagle eye motion sensor and a nightvision camera in her room connected to a vcr commander. that way it would start recording as soon as the seizure started happening. x10 products are a blessing. we never could have captured one of her episodes if not for x10.
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joe42353

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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2007, 01:14:16 PM »

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Hi everybody. I have been an X-10 fenatic for the past 15 years or more. I have truly transformed my entire house to "the home of the future". I have replaced virtually all my light switches with X-10 switches and electrical outlets. I use the system to turn fountains on and off, control all my outdoor low-voltage lighting and I even use it in conjunctioon with my Virtual Weather Station software to turn on ceiling fans when the heat index inside the house exceeds 79 degrees. Since I have no regular wall switches, there is a palm pad or two located on every table to conveniently be able to control the entire house. Since I have built a small "Disco" on my back porch, I use X-10 to control all the lighting effects and even the smoke machine with Active home. This frees me up to be able to join the party while X-10 does alll the work flawlessly.

I also use X-10 for security. Every single window, door, cubby hole and opening in the house is protected by X-10. In addition, I have installed 4 Poerhorn Sirens in various locations throughout the house to deter any attemts to break in. I have even installed a repeater to allow the alarming of our large wood shed. Total protection. Try to find that from a compettitor! I even use the security plug-in to turn lights OFF when I alarm the house to leave and to turn lights ON when I disarm the house to re-enter. In addition, the plug in allows me to receive e_mails on my cell phone if a door or window is compromised and the e mail tells me exactly which door or window is open.

I also use the camera plug in to record any motion that is detected around the house and I am also able to conect to my house live over the internet to see if everything is OK. This is invaluable, especially if there happens to be a false alarm.

In short, I have built a mega system out of X-10 that is the envy of anybody that sees it.
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asnider123

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A Camera To Save Lives
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2007, 11:28:15 PM »

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Here's my idea, and it's a dilly!! Several of my family members are truckers and they tell me that the most dangerous part of their job is when they are backing up their 'big rigs', because they have a giant blindspot and it is very easy to back up over a vehicle or (heaven forbid) a person who is not being observant. In fact, a couple of weeks ago here in Oklahoma a young life was lost because he was 'backed over' by a dump truck.

So here's the winning idea: combine a wide-angle wireless camera (complete with a rechargeable battery pack and a magnetic base) and a small black/white 12 volt DC monitor. The camera (or the monitor) needs to scan backward so it will look in the monitor just like a rear-view mirror. You could probably solve the backward image problem by using optics of some kind, but rewiring the camera would certainly be the cheapest.  The camera/monitor pair MUST be reliable for a range of at least 70 feet (the length of a big rig).

If truckers always towed the same trailer, this would be an easy fix. However, most companies switch trailers with every load, so mounting your own camera permanently is not possible.

So, when the driver prepares to back up into a tight location, he/she only needs to attach the camera to the metal bumper (magnetically), turn on the camera outside and the monitor inside, and back up with confidence.

Well, there's my idea and bet it will sell a lot of units if the price is reasonable and it is advertised to the trucking industry.

Alan Snider
alan.snider@gmail.com
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RayBo

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Re: X10 Idea Contest! Winner receives a FREE Sentinel Camera!
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2007, 07:48:03 AM »

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I have nine X-10 cameras run by Vanguard.  I use them for "horse-sitting."  My wife and I both work and therefore can not be home all day with the horses.  However, we have Vanguard cameras in the barn that can see each stall.  I've arranged preset locations for each camera to allow monitoring of the stalls, including preset positions for food buckets and water buckets. 

I have installed solenoid valves and float switches on the water pipes going to each stall and the water buckets that I can control with my X10 system, and I periodically check the status of every horse's water bucket by logging on to the Vanguard software over the internet from my office or when I'm out of town.  If one of them gets low (It's very hot here in Florida and sometimes they drink a lot more than you'd expect.)  I can turn on the water solenoid valve to each horse's stall on whenever I see that it is low and filli it up. 

Even better...I have recently kicked it up a notch by setting up a macro to use input from the float switches to automatically refill the water when it gets low.   The float switches and solenoids are low power, so I just hooked them up as if they are lamps or appliances in my house.  When someone's bucket gets low, a macro fires and fills it up.  ALL my neighbors are jealous. 

I'd like to try a Sentinel in my house so I can see when my daughter gets home from school.  That way I can shut off the macros and have her walk out to the barn and refill the water the old fashioned way.  (Kids still need some chores to build character, you know...)
« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 02:54:33 PM by mmallari »
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