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 on: July 02, 2022, 06:16:03 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by Brian H
Good to know and thank you for the information.
Seems typical. Remove all X10 information and not officially support it but still do.

Also was a welcomes sight to see  that the X10 write up is again on line. When they originally folded all that stuff was gone.

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 on: July 02, 2022, 06:10:43 AM 
Started by stargateuser - Last post by Brian H
As brobin pointed out.

Until the newbie tag is gone
There are posting restrictions.
More posts should help.

 3 
 on: July 02, 2022, 03:52:07 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by x10wizard
I purchased a few Insteon 2334-222 Keypad Dimmers V8.0 in May 2018 to keep as spares, and when I bench tested them, they accepted both X10 primary and X10 scene addresses.  Same goes for Insteon 2477D Dimmer Switches V8.2 purchased in May 2018.  So my guess is that even later versions of these still retain X10 scene capability.

Instructions for X10 scene address programming are here:
https://www.insteon.com/support-knowledgebase/insteon-x10-programming

I just use a maxi-controller to send the string of commands, it’s a lot of tweaking the house-code setting back and forth with a jeweler’s screwdriver, but it works.

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 on: July 01, 2022, 11:55:02 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by JeffVolp
Jeff the Insteon module use to have a X10 primary address and an X10 scene address feature.

I understand Insteon modules can respond to a specified dim level.  But again my work was intended to allow the Harmony to support Leviton and newer X10 modules that use extended commands.

I did run into a hiccup converting another XTB-232 to the XTB-XM.  Converting the prototype worked fine, but the newer unit had trouble receiving commands.  Baud rate was correct.  It turned out to be the opto-isolators were too slow.  The prototype and early XTB-232s used NEC optio-isolators.  They discontinued that part and the alternate available at Mouser (same part number) is significantly slower.  A different part selected for its speed is on the way.  So the XTB-XM should be available in about a week:  https://jvde.us/xtb/xtb_ordering.htm#xtb-xm

Jeff

 5 
 on: July 01, 2022, 11:15:51 AM 
Started by stargateuser - Last post by brobin
I think you need a minimum number of posts to add attachments.  I'm sending you a PM.

 6 
 on: July 01, 2022, 10:55:24 AM 
Started by stargateuser - Last post by stargateuser
I have a two-way interface and XTB-11R coupler/amplifier/repeater from Jeff Volp. I have de powered the system numerous times to no avail.
I have 2 screen shots showing the binary code and repeating unit addresses.
However I am new on this site and can't figure out how to insert jpg files.

 7 
 on: July 01, 2022, 10:46:03 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by Brian H
Jeff the Insteon module use to have a X10 primary address and an X10 scene address feature.
Using a sequence of House Code messages you cold add a second X10 address to them.
At different settings from the primary address.
With the scene address in many modules.
A command to the primary address only controlled the module with that address.
Sending an X10 scene address command would set all the modules together. To what they where set to in the scene address setup.

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 on: July 01, 2022, 10:21:11 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by Brian H
Regarding Jeff’s XTB-XM, if the Harmony cannot send out X10 pre-set dim commands, a workaround would be to use X10 scenes.  The Insteon 2477D Dimmer Switch, the Insteon 2334-222 and 2334-232 Keypad Dimmers, and several other Insteon dimmers, are capable of storing X10 scene addresses in addition to their primary X10 address.

For example, suppose a 2477D was set up with the X10 primary address A1 at 100%, and X10 scene address B1 at 50%.  If the Harmony were to send out a X10 B1 ON command, that would be equivalent to sending out a X10 A1 50% pre-set dim command.

I thought the X10 Scenes feature was removed in the later revisions to add other features.
Do the latest revisions still accept an X10 Scenes address in them?
What are you using to send the need address strings to start and end the processes?
I had a Smarthome 2430 console to send the House Code sequences.

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 on: June 30, 2022, 11:11:47 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by JeffVolp
That works for Insteon dimmers.  But the reason I included the ability to expand a pre-set dim command to an extended command was to use the Harmony with our Leviton dimmer switches.  They use extended commands to ramp the brightness to a specified level with 64-step resolution.  Since a pre-set dim has 32-step resolution, there is just a minor loss of resolution converting the pre-set dim to an extended command with still 32 steps of resolution.

As brobin suggested earlier, I can set up macros in the Ocelot to convert a "trigger" from the Harmony to an extended dim command.  But that relegates the Harmony to just an Alexa interface if the Ocelot is still the main controller.

Of course, with what has happened with Insteon, maybe Smartenit would consider enhancing the G2 capability to directly support pre-set dim commands?

Jeff

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 on: June 30, 2022, 10:41:18 AM 
Started by Brian H - Last post by x10wizard
Regarding Jeff’s XTB-XM, if the Harmony cannot send out X10 pre-set dim commands, a workaround would be to use X10 scenes.  The Insteon 2477D Dimmer Switch, the Insteon 2334-222 and 2334-232 Keypad Dimmers, and several other Insteon dimmers, are capable of storing X10 scene addresses in addition to their primary X10 address.

For example, suppose a 2477D was set up with the X10 primary address A1 at 100%, and X10 scene address B1 at 50%.  If the Harmony were to send out a X10 B1 ON command, that would be equivalent to sending out a X10 A1 50% pre-set dim command.

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